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Both sides of the line support Israel. Either you’re saying it in bad faith or need to take your head out of the sand. Anti-Israel isn’t on the ballot. If you want a full fledge war in the Middle East, feel free to not vote Biden and give the GOP the conflict they’ve been wanting since the bush admin.

They promote whatever view promotes apathy and division.

What? A purity test is discounting someone on your side because of a small part of their views.

It's fake social media groups created by foreign adversaries that convince Americans to go out and do it. It's been well established that the likes of China, Russia, North Korea, etc have weaponized our free speech against us. We can't do the same against them, so we are at a disadvantage.

Citizens took bayonettes to the chest, and watched their body parts fly apart in opposite directions on foreign beaches, for our sacred right to choose who leads us. The alliegance is to the country, not any party.

No idea what you're tying to say here. Republicans are welcoming this shit.

You’re making Gavin Newson cry.

I don't think he's as universally liked as you think. There's so weirdness with one of his exes now being involved with one of Trumps kids too, so that's another thing that they'd hold against him.

JPL doesn't get enough credit. We just taken for granted that most NASA missions succeed. Space is incredibly difficult.

Russian propaganda.

They want to use it to cause “empire” collapse.

Which will ironically cause the GOP to throw away democracy in favor an an authoritarian state. Those people are either Russian propagandists or rubes.

Running a Primary against the President would almost certainly guarantee a Democratic loss. It's like admitting failure and asking to try again. Furthermore there is no clear alternative waiting to run. "Votes are not owed, they are given" is kinda bunk. Someone is going to win the election whether you like it or not. If you treasure the ability to vote at all, there is only one person on the ballot that is going to ensure that moving forward. The GOP is actively talking about overturning democracy at CPAC. Especially in a topic about Israel, which the GOP has stronger support for than the DNC. If you'd rather see the US Military help Israel, by all means vote Republican, because they have been trying to find an excuse to go to war with Iran for ever, and starting another war in the middle east would be their we dream.

write all your congresspeople and tell them that they need to stop supporting Israel.

That's a bad idea. If the US stops supporting Israel, Hamas and their financial backers will immediately invade to wipe them off the planet. I don't know if the rhetoric I hear is mostly Russian propaganda, or people don't really understand the conflict. Israel didn't just decide to invade Gaza, there was an 9/11-esk terrorist attack by Hamas that triggered his retaliation. Despite being the defacto governors of Gaza, Hamas is a terrorist organization and operates like one. There is no attacking Hamas without attacking Gaza. They are essentially one in the same, and there is no peaceful solution when Hamas goal is to wipe Israel off the planet. It would be a kin to the US not going after Osama Bin Laden after 9/11. Do you think he would have stopped? I don't think I've heard anyone seriously suggest the US should have done nothing after 9/11. Going into Afghanistan was pretty well supported (Ignoring Iraq, because that's where the Bush Admin fucked it up). The only solution to 9/11 was a time machine going back and not getting involved in the Middle East in the first place, but now where talking a reverse butterfly effect of who knows what happens. The Israel-Hamas conflict is older than Hamas, and it quite literally one of, if not the most complex Geo-political issues in history.

Personally I think the best Idea would be the pressure Israel into larger oversight by the UN, or whomever. I don't see any true peace while Hamas or any other Islamist extremist organization exists in that region. The time for that was twenty plus years ago.

I keep asking for a viable alternative and all I get is vote third party or stay home which solves exactly nothing.

That's wrong too. Voting for Biden keeps it the same. Voting third party or staying home makes it worse. Making it better isn't on the ballot.

This is the answer. If Bernie actually had a base around the country he may have won in 2016. The number of people unfamiliar with Politics that were shocked that established Democrats didn't care for a guy who isn't a party member coming into it to try to win the nomination is downright laughable. If he stayed a Democrat and helped support like-minded candidates around the country, maybe he would have had a better shot in 2020. His heart was in the right place, but I think his strategy and feasibility planning was awful.

How can you vote for someone you’ve been accusing of genocide for months?

These stupid purity tests need to end. You can't cut ties with someone over single issues with insanely complex situations. Especially when the alternative is not possible on top of wouldn't be different.

Literal Russia troll farms setup facebook groups to get people to do this. They did it throughout the 2016 election. There are plenty of useful idiots in the US that fall right into the trap.

Realistically Yes

If you've ever complained about a CEO seeking to boost profits to benefit themselves and not care about the long term repercussions of their actions. This is you. You're doing it now. The GOP is seeking to remove democracy. They are allowing / endorsing it at CPAC. Republicans support Israel more than Democrats. A Trump term equals never having the ability to vote again + More support for Israel doing what it's doing, and likely having the US join in. They've been begging to invade Iran for decades. Global politics is messy. If you act like it's clean you're just going to get steamrolled.

Ah are you talking the cup of noodles in the styrofoam? I was thinking the square package that you put in a boiling pot for 3 mins. I’ve heard an egg is great in it, but never tried it.

What’s the timing on that?