If Architects had to work like Programmers
peak_dunning_krueger @ peak_dunning_krueger @feddit.de Posts 0Comments 43Joined 1 yr. ago
Yes, but you have to remember that the developer community is absolutely tiny compared to the number of gamers.
It's a neat gimmick, but 98% of the people who could be your audience will get nothing out of the game being open source.
I would really like it if certain specific games were more open source and more moddable, for example stellaris has an annoying formula hard coded that makes combat balancing and weapon modding very difficult. On the other hand, games like openRA exist and I'm not playing that and I'm not doing anything with the source either. That one even has fully functioning multiplayer, but it's so built in that it's hard to reuse for anything else. So you might end up being torn between making the game really good and making the tools and code really good.
I think the biggest appeal of open source games is as a learning resource. Maybe. idk.
Also, may I suggest panda3d, which I'm shilling for at every opportunity that I get, because it's neat, 3d, open source and runs with C or python?
Not sure about unsung, but definitely heroes in my book.
"a AAA single-player shooter in today's market was a truly awful idea"
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2009100/Immortals_of_Aveum/
1.1k reviews 75% positive
https://store.steampowered.com/app/379720/DOOM/ (2016)
125k reviews 95%
Git gud, EA, and make an actually competing product.
Would you like to get some info going back to 2005 regarding the interest and effort Microsoft puts into PC gaming?
And to be fair, this Orwellian oversight could be a good thing. Literally over the last few weeks, we’ve witnessed a huge manhunt for a guy suspected of being involved in a chemical attack. At the time of writing, he was last seen on the Victoria Line. So if this AI technology had already been rolled out across the Tube network, it could have conceivably been possible to find him before he had even left the station.
But what makes the tech powerful is also what makes it scary.
Really. Ya think. What gave it away.
You know what this feels like? It feels like this sketch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_4J4uor3JE
So, this is kind of funny, because when you think "cyberpunk" "high tech, low life", there always was/is the question of how this tech abundance but also poverty can coexist. Surely it takes a lot of money to build all this?
It's waste. That's the answer. It's the repurposed, discarded corporate trash that didn't meet the quarterly goal. It's all starting to make sense you guys!! In new and terrifying ways!
Oh I agree, doesn't prevent me from being locked into certain communities on discord.
We're talking about discord and why people use that and not other technology. 99% of the people on discord are not involved with FOSS, but they are what make the platform attractive.
programming.dev is useless and serves no purpose?
No, this instance is federated and not a traditional forum.
A budding community must be online 24/7 to provide support
No, it's fine if that support is given via the git platform, and it's also fine if it takes a while. And it's also fine if the question goes unanswered.
imagine a community with many people and the chat moving forward quickly enough for your question to be out of scrolling view within minutes due to other discussions going on. Even in that scenario there is “no purpose” for a forum?
Yes. Because it is functionally no different than a forum main page where so many new topics get created that questions people don't get to get buried. And also, I've never seen that happen with chats. What I have seen is that people didn't have time or interest to answer my question. Which is fine because they owe me nothing. But a forum would not have "solved" that.
Exactly, it's a different paradigm and I don't want a forum.
To me it looks like the features are about 80% there, can't find the screen sharing, login with QR doesn't exist. Not really sure how to even search for some features because the naming is so extremely bad. "matrix automation" "element bot". E.g. this is a very poor collection: https://element.io/integrations Looks like custom emotes are still missing.
But let's say all of that exists and works.
What other features are essential for an opensource community that only discord provides?
I think we're talking about different things then. I don't need something for an opensource community. I need something for ALL communities I'm a part of. Because I'm already in 40 of them and 5 of them are FOSS projects. So switching those over increases friction, if it's not a total replacement.
As for forums, they are for async. Are you going to seriously tell me discord is a good forum replacement?
This is inverted. I don't need to defend why the platform I'm on is good, (it's not), you need to explain why forums are supposed to be better (they are significantly worse).
Documentation belongs on a dedicated website, Issues belong on some gitlab or something instance. If I have a question, I want the answer reasonably quickly or I'm just not going to use the software you're providing. If I'm nice, I'll leave a post on the bug tracker that the install/getting started documentation didn't work.
Forums serve no purpose anymore.
Right now, I'm going to stop using element/matrix again for the forseeable future because there are no communities with public rooms I'm interested in.
Matrix isn't competing with the experience of setting up another account on a different platform, with email, username, passwords, recovery key, display theme, notifications settings, content warnings, etc..
It's competing with being able to click on a link to join a subgroup of a social network that people are already a part of and already signed into.
The game Mindustry is one example.
Yes. And as you can see it has 14k reviews on steam while factorio has 141k reviews.
It's also a game, so there is no productivity gain or loss associated with it. There is no on call IT support, but you also don't need any and if something breaks, you lose nothing except the ability to play THIS game for a short while. It's not a... webserver you run your online shop through where every hour of downtime costs you X hundreds of euros or dollars.
The game was also made by what looks like one guy. It's not, you know libre office. With hundreds and thousands of contributors and a huge problem of how to distribute the money.
Of course you're allowed to distribute it. And of course you're allowed to charge for it. But realistically, nearly nobody would use it.
The people in this thread are open source power users who don't get and don't want the features that discord offers. It's no surprise you'd rather have your forum back. I don't think that's how it's going to work.
Privacy is good and what discord does is bad. But don't lecture me on how convient and nice it is to use or run something like matrix, if this is your idea of a user onboarding experience:
This is objectively not true, because social network effects are in place and there is a switching cost.
The cost of switching to an unfamiliar Interface and workflow is high enough, charging money to do it will further increase the barrier to entry.
Paying for open source software sounds good on paper, but if it is required, the software will never accumulate the users to make the development have any meaning.
There has to be a "try it before you buy it" too. Otherwise the permutations of scams are obvious and nobody will fall for that. Idk how you would prove that the software works, without giving an actual copy of the software.
Also, legalities between different countries. You will just not get your money back from "trustworthy nigerian software dev who just needs 50$ to give you some software".
So no.
Do donate if you can though. If you value the software you use, you will pretty obviously recognize the utility and the cost to you, should it go away.
Downgrading to a Floor-Top device? Sounds like you can't go any lower, no thanks.
That is true, nevermind me.
This is a good post, but I'm not sure it belongs in technology. Hmm.
That's actually too easy, because electrical systems have been standardized for a long time.
Should be something like "15 highpowered electrical stoves, but keep the total power consumption below 15 Watts."
Or, homeautomation and integration with google/alexa, but using the old fridge.