pazukaza @ pazukaza @lemmy.ml

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I think that just because capitalism can go wrong it doesn't mean that capitalism is a failure. Sure, right now we're living in a pretty dystopian capitalism, but this can happen to any system, no system is invulnerable to exploitation. This is just the same argument the far-right uses to say socialism and communism are failure because "look at North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba and the Soviet Union".

Unfortunately, they figured out how to exploit capitalism by buying politicians. This is bad because they get to do whatever the fuck they want with no consequences, but it doesn't mean that wealth accumulation is bad.

Imagine a company that didn't exploit workers, didn't buy politicians, cared about the environment and payed fair taxes. These companies do exist. They exist under capitalism. The same way you imagine a government that takes care of everyone, gives free education, free healthcare, takes care of workers.... I could imagine a government that has too much power, destroys private companies and ignores the needs of the working class, as it has happened under socialism/communism.

It isn't a matter of abolishing the systems we have but finding a balance between them. Plus, politicians should be subjected to extremely harsh audits to make sure they aren't corrupt. Lobbying shouldn't be legal, that's insane, but it isn't an inherente part of capitalism.

Idk, I think capitalism isn't evil, humans are. Any system can go south with us.

Oh, so you're saying wealth should be equally distributed with workers. That argument is silly... Workers should get paid fairly for their skillset. The US is obviously exploiting people, $7/h is ridiculous... But a package delivery person demanding to become a millionaire because they work for a multi-billion dollar company? What's their skillset? Driving a car and walking with a box on their hands?

Workers should never be exploited, people should get paid a fair amount of money so they can have a good living. The Amazon workers are definetely not getting paid fairly and are physically and mentally abused. But Bezos didn't become a billionaire BECAUSE he exploits people, that's just him being an asshole in general. He would have still been a billionaire if he had paid fair wages and had had happy workers.

So you have package delivery teams, marketing, financial analysts, software developers, data analysists, lawyers.... Should all of them get paid equally?

Should a neurosurgeon working in a small hospital earn less money than a delivery person working in a multi-billion company? THAT seems unfair.

I'm very concerned with this change. What incentive will app developers have to ensure their apps run in Firefox if they know Chrome will force users to see ads and be targeted for marketing?

I don't see how earning large amounts of money makes someone evil. I don't think there is a logical connection between evil and wealth. That's why I ignored that number. As I said, the only thing you need to do is to prove they actually exploited workers. That's it.

They accumulated wealth because they invested in companies that grew to become multi-billion dollar companies. This happened because they had a clever idea or solved a real issue. These are companies located in many countries, how is 2M monthly too much for services/products used worldwide?

Do I like the fact billionaires exist? No. I'd prefer a world with a better wealth distribution. Do I think they are evil because the system allowed them to get to that point? No.

Your scenario isn't against my point, public and private sectors should compete. It just sounds like there's a lack of competition in your area, which is something that the government should fix, not private companies. So you want to give more power to an entity that can't even fix a competition issue in the market? This is literally the responsibility of the government. As far as I know, Canada isn't like the US, private companies don't own the government, so what's happening there?

I'm just saying, wealth accumulation isn't necessarily an evil thing. As I showed, it can also be positive. It's just a matter of balance. I'm much more inclined to the left than the right, but I don't see everything that happens in the right as evil.

Reminds me of my city, when the internet provider was a government company. The internet was down 30% of the day, latency of 1s, nobody answered the support lines, whole portions of the city could be out for days... It was extremely expensive and the speeds were so low I remember it could take 2h to download a 5m song.

Then private companies (with wealth accumulation) were allowed to provide internet for users. Everyone started jumping on the private networks as soon as their area had coverage. It was like 1/3 of the cost of the public company and like 20 times the speed. Latencies were like 100ms.

The public company saw its reign over people crumbling and did something INSANE, totally unexpected. They actually became competitive and started giving a good service.

That's a lesson for y'all. If there's no wealth large enough to compete against the state, the state becomes an inefficient monopoly.

Elongated 😂

Because they are going to create a coin linked with crypto, which is going to give money to people for using Reddit. I like that to be honest. The problem is that Reddit has never figured out how to tell if someone is a bot or not. If bots were bad before, they'll totally dominate Reddit now. So Reddit will probably release a way to verify you're human, which ties you to your identity, or to captcha the hell out of posting.

Anyways, for people thinking Reddit doesn't already know who you are, I invite you to read about online fingerprinting. It's almost impossible not to giveaway your identity nowadays. You'd have to follow guidelines that would make browsing pretty awful.

https://www.howtogeek.com/735535/what-is-browser-fingerprinting-and-how-can-you-block-it/

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gets hit by a train

the universe stops

Just create an alias that filters loop devices. I mean, if this is your only problem with snap, you can fix it in a second. But I'm betting you have other problems with it.

Me lying in bed.

grabs pillow case

Diablo is cancer tbh. Mindless grinding, zero skill. The only challenge is creating a nice build but that requires grinding and anyone can copy it from a YouTuber and learn to use it in a few minutes.

Yeha sure.... Why not.

You could dual boot and use Windows for gaming.

I'm not defending the billionaires we know are shit, I'm just saying accumulating capital that is placed in large companies that create jobs worldwide is not inherently evil.

Just prove the 5 guys in the submarine exploited people to get there. There's no logical connection between accumulating wealth and abusing workers.

Why is it impossible to get this rich without taking advantage of other people?

Many successful businesses don't exploit their employees.

But if you code like a moron the code should still behave as expected. People who code like this deserve a special place in hell, next to languages that behave like that.

"Babe, we need to buy a lizard trap now."

I wonder Stallman cringes when he reads this, probably once a month. I like to think he does.

Get in line, pal.