paintbucketholder @ paintbucketholder @lemmy.world

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Of course it's not unreasonable. Just as criticism of the United States after 9/11 wasn't unreasonable.

What I find troubling are people who immediately jump to conclusions without the slightest bit of evidence, because they've already decided that one team is always right and the other team is always wrong.

Here's the available evidence of what happened at Al Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza

No reason to take Israel or the IDF at their word, though.

Here is the evidence that's currently publicly available: https://www.npr.org/2023/10/18/1206795861/heres-the-available-evidence-of-what-happened-at-al-ahli-arab-hospital-in-gaza

Israel has negotiated with Hamas before.

Hamas had virtually free reign in Gaza for the past 17 years, despite violently pushing out Fatah and never holding elections again.

That didn't stop Hamas from murdering 1,400 civilians in Israel.

What results should Israel expect if they negotiated with Hamas this time?

Well, that's like taking the word of al-Qaeda at face value because you know the history of the United States.

Yeah, but then Hamas went ahead and murdered 1,400 civilians in Israel. After this, why exactly would Israel want to negotiate with terrorists?

She said the bombing of the hospital was horrific and unless she changes her tone once she realizes Palestinians did it then this isn't supporting terrorism.

She didn't just say the bombing of the hospital was horrific. She explicitly said that Israel bombed the hospital:

Israel just bombed the Baptist Hospital killing 500 Palestinians (doctors, children, patients) just like that.

There's enough evidence - from third parties, not from either Hamas or the IDF or another invested party - out there that runs counter to the claim that it was an Israeli airstrike that Tlaib should have at least modified here initial statement.

But she hasn't.

I agree that she hasn't openly supported terrorism, but blaming one side for something that was very likely caused by the other side, and then completely refusing to acknowledge that once evidence to the contrary comes out is, at the very least, doing nothing to calm tensions.

Chinese electric car makers get absolutely massive state subsidies. There are companies like Nio that have never made a single dollar of profit. Nio has been losing money on every single car they sell, to the point where they've been losing almost a billion dollars in the last quarter alone.

However, China doesn't care. The state keeps financing these companies, because if they can undermine European and American auto makers to the point where they're simply unable to compete and maybe even completely collapse, then Chinese car makers will be the only ones left in the market, and they'll be able to charge any price they want.

And realistically, which American or European car maker will be able to compete with a multitude of Chinese competitors that all can afford to lose billions and billions every year without batting an eye?

So that's why they want to fight "low prices."

He wasn't nearly this unhinged in 2015, eight years ago, when he won the GOP nomination.

Trump has been making insane claims about "windmills" - as he calls them - since he realized that he wouldn't be able to bully the Scottish government into stopping a wind farm project that could be seen from his golf course.

That was in 2011.

Take a look at the Trump Twitter Archive and see for yourself.

So no, this didn't only start at some point after 2015. Trump has always been a crybully and a narcissist.

They have very pointedly not made a condemnation of the Hamas attack which killed innocent people and took them hostage.

Not only is there absolutely no condemnation - that entire text is a justification of the mass murder of 1,200 people.

Always has been.

Nah, he's just a narcissist who's getting old.

Ascribing it to some medical condition feels just like making excuses for his bullshit, when really he's always been spreading this kind of bullshit.

And it's always some insane claim like "flypaper has been banned" or "wind turbines cause cancer" or "you have to flush a toilet twelve times today," when really he's just upset that flies are buzzing around him or that Scotland decided to put a wind farm near his golf course or that his fat turds haven't been flushing.

But he always makes it into some hare brained conspiracy theory, some concocted "they're out to get you, you should all be upset" crusade so he can have thousands of people cheer and holler and validate his narcissistic belief that he's the eternal victim in this world.

None of this is new. Don't make excuses for him.

I never said there's no new technology because there is

Well, alright then: what is the new emissions reducing technology that 2023 SUVs have, but smaller 2013 cars don't have?

I would need much, much more solid proof for this conspiracy theory before believing it.

I don't doubt Israel had some unspecified warnings, but I just think it's much more likely that it was a mixture of a misguided belief that Hamas was more interested in political power than large scale terrorism, an assumption that any attack would just be "regular" rocket attacks like we've seen in the last years, incompetence of Israeli intelligence services, and an over confidence that the fence and Iron Dome would be enough to stop any attack.

Also, Israel doesn't need Hamas. Just look at the West Bank where Hamas isn't in power.

Agree though that Bibi shouldn't be in power.

Right.

So no changes between 2013 and 2023 standards for petrol cars. No new technology to reduce harmful emissions either.

So there's no actual argument in favor of a new SUV over a 10 year old car, outside of marginal degradation of the catalytic converter or degradation of the combustion process - most of which should still be caught in emissions tests.

And even then, properly maintaining the car, replacing the catalytic converter or even replacing the 10 year old car with a new car of the same size instead of upsizing to an SUV would all be better for the environment than buying a new SUV.

How so? Cars have to pass emissions tests, and ten year old cars have to pass them, too.

Also: what significant improvements in filtering out "other types of emissions" have there been made in consumer vehicles in the last 10 years, and what "other types of emissions" are those?

It's also such a race to outsize other vehicles.

I know SUV drivers who bought an SUV because "everyone owns an SUV, and if you're driving around in a smaller car, you can't see anything around you any more." They're not even wrong, in some communities it's getting really hard to participate in traffic of you're constantly surrounded by much larger, taller cars on all sides.

But of course, they're now just perpetuating the problem.

Not because national anthems are political, that's one of the dunbest things that's been said in this thread

Many national anthems are fairly radical political manifestos.

Just because they've been put to some music and we've gotten used to them doesn't make them any less radical.

It's funny to think that statements like "arise, children of the fatherland, against the bloody flag of tyranny" or "O Lord our God arise, scatter our enemies and make them fall!" or "Let's unite, we're ready to die! For centuries we've been stamped on and laughed at because we're not one people" should be completely okay and everybody should stand and listen in awe, but "black lives matter" would be too radical and too political for the same setting.

It's not that you're not saying it often enough, it's that you're stopping halfway through what's being proposed here.

You're seeing it as a one-sided, negative thing for the Palestinian side that the atrocities of Hamas are being "singled out" - but you're completely ignoring the fact that they're being "singled out" in order to be hidden from children.

This means that children would never learn - at least not on their own, via social media - of these atrocities committed by Hamas. That would appear like a net positive for the Palestinian side.

You're getting caught up in the "singling out" part while ignoring the "in order to hide it from children" part.

There's been really no follow-up on whether or not that STD ever cleared up, either....