pahlimur @ pahlimur @lemmy.world

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If that very specific situation were hypothetically were true then maybe I guess? But voting for the extreme candidate expecting them to be less ellectible is just wrong. If the Republican party had to pick desantis because Trump died or something similar, the vote count wouldn't change much. Republican voters all fall in line behind who is picked by the party. All I'm pissed about is the belief that a radical candidate will spoil an election and thinking that voting for a candidate in a primary is somehow not supporting them. It's hand wavy and normalizes crazy political beliefs.

Yes it can, thanks for the example. The reality is it barely ever works and can (and does) backfire much worse by pushing the party further right. Which is why I believe it's a horrible idea to ever try. Makes my inner Republican come out its box I tucked it into.

The problem is the great evil that's waiting by even giving support in primaries for a party that wouldn't blink at putting people in camps. I've heard multiple conversations from people who think they are moderate Republicans discussing putting homeless people into camps or just outright killing them all. It's getting scarier than just supporting the bad candidates to maybe spoil the vote. These are people I barely know openly discussing killing a large group of people. Working in manufacturing exposed me to tons of yokels all over the country.

Ok, noted.

No I fully understand. Republicans will vote for whoever is chosen in the primary, so this person is choosing to further radicalize the Republican party.

Oregon primaries do suck a bit. Still, the Republican governor candidate would have taken so many basic rights we have in Oregon away. Yet people still are thinking they couldn't be that bad when Dems mess up a few things. Sometimes I feel like dirt is smarter than most oregonians out in the country where I live.

I know I'm being a dick to you but I'm curious. Is this a DM? I'm obviously new to lemmy and I'm using boost only so I can't tell if it is.

I'm honestly sorry for being so rude but you can't assume Republican voters care about anything but the R next to a candidates name. It's a childish assumption that yields extremely dangerous results. And the "I answer to no party" rethoric is dumb too. If your ideals line up with one of the two valid party's you support that party.

Wut? Didn't call them Nazis.

Participating with Republicans is directly voting that candidate into office. They almost never fail to vote their candidates into office therefore voting for the insane candidate in hopes they will win the primary is voting an insane person into office. Now that I wrote it out I guess you could call it voting for Nazis, Germans thought Hitler was insane and stupid when electing him.

I am being uncivil but only to show you who you are voting for. Doesn't matter if it's only a primary you are supporting those who openly hate you.

You are picking a side by voting in the Republican primary. You are Republican because you picked one of their candidates. And like a stated elsewhere they will vote that person into office because they don't give a shit about who the person is. If they are the chosen Republican candidate they will be in office, you are choosing to make their choice more extreme.

Republican voters don't care who is on the ballot, Democrats do. Republicans will vote a pro pedophile candidate into office. So voting in their primary is useless, again especially by voting for the extremist candidate. You are directly voting that extremist into office when you cast your primary vote.

You are what we used to joke about a lot. People who think they can trick the right. We always knew better by always voting regardless of the candidate.

It's not ignoring them. Participating normalizes behavior. So they can point at numbers to justify being shitty.

Be loud but don't vote for them. Being loud is harder than quietly voting in support of a candidate you think is less bad.

It doesn't matter. Engagement with opposition stifles your own party. I was registered independent for a long time until I stopped being Republican.

That's sort of interesting. Then your only job is to create the vote on the primary ballot. Voting in your opposition party's primary election only reinforces their entrenched position. Stop doing it, again especially because you are helping the far right.

Yep. Republicans always see the big R and vote for it. They don't give a shit about political beliefs. Believing they might not vote for R on the ballot is childish.

Engagement with a bad party is the same as supporting them. Republicans deserve nothing besides being ignored. Being loud about avoiding them is better than participating in their bullshit. ...see any bad uprising of fascists for an example of what not to do in opposition

Yep, this is basically propaganda.

Totally disagree. Sitting down and hiding is what Republicans want, having been one. Be loud and teach them to sit back down. They are basically children and should be taught to STFU.

God damn this is stupid. I was raised Republican and will never be stupid enough to ever vote for one again. Your state is never safe from their absolutism. I live in Oregon and we almost lost all of our rights during our last election for governor. Yet some fucking idiots here are still complaining about how we handled COVID vs how a Republican literal Nazi would be a better governor. It's absolutely insane how stupid people can be.

They can see the numbers for new shit reddit and old reddit. They haven't gotten rid of it because it probably still has a ton of traffic that can display ads. It's extremely obvious that they fucked up with the new design just because the old one has been around for so long