paf0 @ paf0 @lemmy.world

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I don't want to punish anyone, I just think free university is a better investment for the future. Debt relief only removes the consequences for the choices some people made, while free university is for everyone.

State universities, community colleges, boot camps and inexpensive online universities exist. Not to mention trade schools and entrepreneurship. No one was forced to take on an insane amount of debt. They chose it.

FWIW, the system is fucked for people that have degrees right now too. The job market is super competitive and a lot of educated people are struggling to find work.

We should plan for the future rather than pay the bills you don't feel like paying.

No one was coerced to do anything. Cheaper options were available at state schools, community colleges and boot camps. Many people instead chose debt and more expensive schools instead.

If we're going to drop a trillion we really don't have on something, I'd prefer to build for the future while you don't want to pay your bills.

No, free university for whatever. It's simply a better investment than fixing people's past mistakes.

Where does that math come from? I can't think of anything that got more efficient just because the government got involved.

I love the idea of Medicare For All but it should be a choice for people who want it.

PS: Huh?

I'm saying people made choices.

People shouldn't choose to take on debt that they can't afford and free education will still get me all of that culture.

Free education will make the world a better place in the future for everyone. Debt forgiveness is just for people who don't want to pay their bills because they studied something that doesn't pay.

It's also important for dumb choices to have consequences. The systemic racism that brought the majority of the marijuana convictions is not even close in comparison to someone who borrowed money to get a degree that was never going to make a decent income.

Overall, not without raising taxes though. The money just doesn't stop getting spent by people and appear in the government budget without it.

Yes, but also, America. It's not that I don't want these things, I just think they're politically impossible.

The marijuana comparison is not even close to the same thing.

Yes, we can't afford it, because we chose to spend all of our money on the military.

Not all loans were predatory, some people just made dumb choices all on their own. If anything there should be a reasonable limit on the interest rates and the loans should be refinanced.

And, as for why not both, we actually can't afford either. Investing for the future is a better deal for society than fixing people's personal mistakes.

Fine, just to please you I'll remove it. You're welcome.

Probably for the same reason you're inserting yourself into this conversation, I can.

Personally I don't like student loan forgiveness because I think a free public university system is a better investment.

I like it.

No, sorry, your name and comments indicate you need to phone a friend or a therapist. I am neither.