Do you want Artificial Intelligence to be invented?
oxjox @ oxjox @lemmy.ml Posts 31Comments 1,261Joined 2 yr. ago

I’m not shaming anyone and wealth inequality has nothing to do with this.
Anyone who believes the average salaried worker should be able to afford all the subscription services, a $60k car, a three bedroom home, and everything available at a grocery store is delusional. Marketing and corporate propaganda and influencers have made everyone to believe it’s your god given right to make $50k and live like the upper middle class. That’s not wealth inequality. It’s delusion.
No one has any concept of living within their means. If you make $50k; you should be shopping at farmers markets, you should have very few subscriptions (if any), you shouldn’t be buying a brand new car, you should be renting and living with a roommate to split the bills. That’s not wealth inequality. That’s personal finance 101.
You want to talk about shaming people, point your finger at social media and influencers. They make it seem like everyone should be taking on more debt to buy shit that won’t last one season. My 16 year old nephew wants a $250 hoodie he saw on TikTok. My 7 year old niece wants to do a shopping challenge she saw on YouTube. People are being manipulated to be consumers. To consume far beyond their means.
People have lost all concept of personal fiscal responsibility and what the value of things are. It’s really basic math and economics. No one wants to talk about that though. They want to play the victim card and blame everyone else because they believe “luxury” is owed to them. And then, when given the choice to put people in power to actually make these systematic changes you speak of, people explicitly vote against them.
I do have an abundance of time when it comes to meal preparation. I work ten hours a day but I wake up at 5am to prep for the day. I take half of my Sunday to walk to farmers markets and other local shops. I prioritize food because it's literally of vital importance. The weeks when I don't have time to make food; I eat poorly, I feel bad, I have a lot less money.
Your argument is that 70% of Americans have no choice but to buy the cheapest things possible?
Judging by the success of companies like Amazon, Netflix, Apple, and DoorDash, that seems like an unreasonable argument.
People have more money than they like to admit. They just don't want to skimp on things they believe to necessities but are actually luxuries. Fresh food is cheaper than processed food. It's cheaper to buy ingredients to make cheeseburgers than it is to buy them at McDonalds. I buy food from the farmers market because I can't afford the grocery store. If you're truly struggling to buy food, you should register for food stamps. Every farmers market I've been to accepts them.
Sadly, you're not wrong. I've found that when it comes to food though, most small businesses stay small. You don't get into regenerative farming to get rich - you do not because you want to be the change you want to see in the world. Frankly, we need a lot more people to embrace race these sorts of values.
We had a local butcher who survived for seven years but closed their doors last year. The pandemic really hit everyone one way or another. https://share.inquirer.com/tnXDXl | https://heathermaroldthomason.substack.com/about
When it comes to other stuff, I've been going second hand or just abstaining all together from buying things. I've already got a lot of shit. A lot of it was actually really quality stuff from upstarts on Kickstarter - all of whom were out of business in a few years. We justify purchasing things we don't need because they look pretty and they "support local businesses". It's so compelling and it feels good to support humans over corporations. Maybe we really don't need more stuff to begin with.
Other times, the tried and true makers - the corporations - are the way to go. For instance, it's tempting to get a trendy new MadeIn cookware set but a used Calphalon might be a better product and last longer and doesn't generate new waste. There was a subreddit for stuff like this which I can't remember right now. There's buyitforlife but I think there was another one.
And I'm saying that people need to consider more than just the sticker price when making choices about nourishment.
We are not slaves to corporations. Wow have the power to not purchase their products. They get away with selling shit product for inflated profit because people don't care. If you don't care, then you can't blame the corporation. That's just insane to believe a corporation is going to do something on behalf of consumers. They answer only to their stockholders.
Maybe when people stop playing the victim card we'll see some real change.
Convenience and cheapness has won. No one cares about a quality product. It's better to buy more cheap things than few good things, people think.
This is mostly evident in fashion and appliances today because we already embraced this with food decades ago.
The corporations want you to spend all your money, and money you've yet to earn, right now. Everything is bought on credit (in many cases, you can't even pay with cash anymore).
Especially in America, people want as much 'stuff' as possible for the least amount of money. What's often missing from this stuff is quality. The only way to reduce the retail price is to reduce the cost of production. This means your food is made cheaply with exploited natural resources and cheap labor. A lot of American grown food is shipped to China for processing then shipped back to the US for sale, all to meet the demands of cheaper food.
I would offer to everyone that they take some time to consider what they're buying, how frequently they buy it, and where it comes from. No government or corporation is going to change what you eat.
Start with reducing your meat consumption at every meal. Instead of a 12 ounce steak, get 10 ounces. Instead of a 5 piece chicken meal, get a three piece. Double or triple up on your vegetables.
The real changes happen when you start to cook for yourself. Just buying whole foods instead of processed foods is going to cut your grocery bill down dramatically. Compare the per pound cost of a whole chicken to boneless chicken breasts per pound. Also - have you noticed how woody and gigantic chicken breasts are now? Buy a whole chicken, butcher it, save money, eat delicious food.
Again, no one is going to do this work for you. And no one's going to force Big AG farmers to start regenerative farming. Especially given the promises of the incoming administration which may very well eliminate the USDA and EPA entirely. The new GOP is going to eliminate as many federal agencies as possible and shift them to states and corporations. The Republican Party is trying to put more responsibility in the hands of consumers. And when that doesn't work (we're too lazy to care) corporations will make the choices for us. Frankly, our consumer protections already suck so this is mostly already the case. But, as evident from this past election, more people in this country want fewer consumer protections.
This story is happening because of consumer demand and ignorance. People walking into Walmart to get groceries have no clue what's going on before they pick out their produce and protein. It blows my mind that a culture war is happening over the price of eggs being over $2. Eggs should not cost that little.
Moreover, I feel strongly that of all things a person spends their time and money on, it should be food. Food, Water, Air, and Sleep should be at the pinnacle of everyone's priorities.
Please, assess your finances and figure out how to prioritize sourcing and preparing quality food. Please find a local farmers' market. Support local businesses who put their earnings back into your community. Keep tabs on farmers who use regenerative farming and spend a portion of your food budget with them. These are the things that should matter more than a Netflix or YoutubeTV subscription.
Yes, this takes work. It takes work you're paying corporations to do for you and they're cutting corners (to put it lightly) to get you the cheapest crap permissible. Instead of asking, "why is this so expensive", we should be asking "why is this so cheap". Shifting priorities towards nourishment and away from convenience and streaming subscriptions should hopefully give you some opportunity to see things this way.
"Good enough", Demand, and Scale.
The contractor grade stuff is designed to be durable and good enough. Most people will find it attractive and suitable for their esthetic. Seasonal re-designs are safe by following design trends established at trade shows. Contractors can rely on the product not failing so they continue to buy it for all their projects.
The fancy stuff is often made for different countries and can have different parts and specifications. If more (assuming we're talking about America here) people wanted this stuff, the manufacturing would increase and the costs would come down. However, a lot of times the reason people buy the expensive stuff is specifically because it's bespoke and "hand crafted". If a Gucci bag cost $50, it wouldn't be worth the name.
You need demand to bring down costs. This increases the scale required and ability to afford better technology to make more.
The tools needed to manufacturer something at large scale are expensive. If you house your own tools, how are you going to buy those tools if you don't have money to buy them? If you're going to contract manufacturing, why would a manufacturer make you something for little money when they can use their facility to make exponentially more widgets for another company? Just swapping out a die on a machine costs money. They're not going to disrupt existing manufacturing for a few hundred widgets.
Ohhh. I see. They (Trump's GOP) want to eliminate all federal agencies unless they can be used as punishment.
I've been convinced that they intend to follow through on the decades-long plan to push everything not explicitly in the constitution to the states or private corporations. This article suggests that the EPA could be used to punish ZEV states and force them to do what they want. Yeah - that makes more sense under a fascism.
The so-called ZEV states (for Zero Emissions Vehicles) do have something closer to an EV mandate, and from model-year 2026 in these states (California, Connecticut, Colorado, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, and the District of Columbia) a third of all new cars sold by each automaker will have to be battery-electric—assuming the EPA grants California a waiver to allow this to happen.
LOL any blog is going to have clickbait. Even most mainstream news is largely made up of clickbait.
Are you looking for Apple news, Apple rumors, or some website constantly trying to sell you something via affiliate links?
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/
https://slashdot.org/index2.pl?fhfilter=apple
https://arstechnica.com/apple/
I just searched for "submit short stories" and this was the first three results.
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Interesting. The people I now brag about hiring the best people. Bringing them in from top universities around the world and bragging about how well they pay them. Perhaps the people I know are the exception because they are setting the bar for being known as well paying organizations. They're explicitly paying well to entice people out of other competing organizations.
Profit is literally the surplus value of the worker’s labor.
No it's not. Profit is dictated by the business. Any business sets the price of their good or service in order to cover overhead and expand the business. If you're sitting at home writing code all day as Ian independent contractor, how are you going to set your hourly wage? Are you going to just calculate what it costs to pay for electric and buy lunch for the eight hours you're working? I would hope not. You're going to calculate your expenses and multiple that to reach a figure that pays for the rest of your life plus money for expanding your operations. Are you exploring yourself in order to purchase health insurance or save up for a new computer?
I'm sorry but I'm tired explaining basic business concepts to people. This shouldn't be hard. I understand people like Walmart workers and coalminers are treated like shit but this concept that every human who works for a living is being exploited is just trash. You need a better argument.
Value of a brand is created from consumer perspective. Value of a company is created by balancing operational expenses. There is nothing explicit in either of these that is exploitive and to suggest so is a broadly uninformed claim.
If human labor is involved in a company, why are you all so stuck on the concept that people are not being paid for their work? How is it that simply by being an employer, you are exploiting staff? I mean, I admit I'm totally being exploited at my current job but I've had other jobs where I was paid extremely well and given great opportunities. Are you talking about specific industries? Specific corporations? Is the guy selling kabobs down the street from me exploiting his staff?
You guys are either being dishonest with me or dishonest with yourselves. Or you really have no idea what you're talking about and just regurgitating what you've heard other people say.
You cannot have that much wealth and operate in an ethical way, it’s not possible. Just like you cannot have non-consensual sex with somebody in an ethical way, there is no scenario where that is possible.
You are starting your argument off with two entirely different concepts. Employees are paid for their work because they are employees. Non-consensual sex is the explicit lack of agreement to be in the situation.
Please, tell me WHY it is unethical to employ people? How is it exploitive to run a business? At what point does a company make so much money that it's unethical for them to continue doing business?
I'm on board with a coop and democratically run operations. When in history has any company ever succeeded as such? To my knowledge, these are locally run organizations with no ability to scale up. So, how do we end up with big nation and world changing projects? Is it your belief that we shouldn't have large scale projects? We shouldn't have corporations like Google or Caterpillar or Visa? Is it your belief that we should must destroy everything we know and go back to village life? Are these real things that you think have to happen or is this in an idealistic world? How do you take what we have now and make it into your image?
Ok. Well I can't understand how you think an athlete is stealing money they've signed a contract to receive. Do you think you're stealing money at your job? Is your 50 year old friend stealing money? At what point are you not stealing money? Who decides what's theft or what's not?
I was not aware media outlets were talking about how amazing and hardworking billionaires are. No. Do you have some examples?
No. They establish companies (employee people) to build, manage, and maintain these organizations as they dictate. They're actively involved in the principles of the organization and maintain a seat on the board of directors to ensure upper management is fulfilling their vision. A lot of their work is with lawyers to make sure everything is done legally and to push legislation through city council to keep the project on time. Sometimes a project will involve contributions to the city like parks or public spaces so they work with architects to design those projects too. That's a very small part of what I'm aware of what they do.
They are giving away hundreds of millions of dollars for the future benefit of lives well beyond their own time. They're doing more by establishing these long-term enterprises than they ever could by simply giving out money. Because that's what makes sense in the reality we live in.
Are you saying that wealthy people should not use their money to build hospitals or help dying kids?
I have other friends in sports. Tell me how all the hundreds of millions and billions they've made is exploitive.
That's what your buddies want you to believe top maintain the class war. I would encourage you to step outside, join charitable organization, work your way up and speak with the people who run it and fund the operation. Then come back and tell me they're bad evil people just in it for the PR. You'd be shocked how many people of wealth came from nothing or have family suffering with an illness. I'm not opposed to the class war but it should be founded on the right reasons. That being lack of government oversight.
Ok. I guess you can work for free.
I did.
I’ll concede this point to you even though the top answers are largely skewed due to the physical size of these locations (Sweden is the most reasonable answer outside tiny Cuba and Monaco).
Respectfully, you've asked the wrong question. The process to create AI started decades ago (arguably, longer).
As you've described it, consider how this is any different than human procreation.
The answer is the ability for a 'computer' to have instantaneous access and ability to process the world's information.
Assuming a sentient "cyber" AI is inevitable and you're wondering about our "own will and desires", the question should be, who do you think should create the rules for AI to ensure it's making the right choices today and beyond the time of our species.
Or, to put it another way, who gets to be God and Moses?