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  • I think it's also perfectly reasonable to say the truth instead, and replace "professional ethics" with "personal".

    If they are appreciative of you, and don't truly want to do whatever it is that makes you the most comfortable or happy, they should be exposed to a learning opportunity.

    If they get offended. Maybe they eventually figure out that, just maybe, you shouldn't express gratitude with selfishness.

    Anyways. That's ny two cents. Say it as it is.

  • Until proven otherwise, I assume either ignorance or malicious intentions by those who want to rename these "problematic" terms. It does nothing to improve the actual issues.

    The false pretense of having done something, is worse than doing nothing. It's just noise.

    To be clear: I don't mind the changing of terms. I'm too old to care about trivial stuff like main vs master. But if the reasoning for such a change is dumb and potentially harmful, you've lost my respect.

  • I cannot tell if you are trying to express agreement or disagreement, and I cannot be bothered to check your history to try and deduce which.

    If it was supposedly in agreement, then I'd politely suggest you go romance a goat. Rejecting logical fallacies is not the same as disagreeing with the point they failed to make.

    I'm genuinely curious. What do you mean by "We’re going to remember you collaborators."? Feel free to explain in depth, because it sounds awfully like a threat, and I've always wanted to have some dialogue with a terrorist (in the literal, dictionary definition of one, that is).

  • Naah, you see. There is a different point of view that you aren't considering. If you cannot correctly identify racism, all you're doing is making noise. Which is perfect, if you'd rather quibble over bullshit and ban episodes of Community, while systemic racism is everywhere in the US. Americans have no idea how much US culture is centered around "race". Everything is viewed through that lens.. so, don't be so quick to dismiss people who might be just a taaaad tired of (mostly) American virtue signaling of what is, and isn't racism.

    Also, of course it didn't bother anyone, since it had fuck all to do with racism. That's kinda my point. Racism is a very real thing, and a very real problem. So people who want to make a fuss about these things can go fuck off and see if they can figure out what racism actually is.

    PS: I'm also not bothered in the slightest if I name the branch main or master. I'm not sure if you'll believe that. What I do take offense is the failure to identify that this in fact, has nothing to do with racism, so how about focus on, you know... the problems?

    PPS: Feel free to downvote me and move on. I'm annoyed that I brought it up.

  • Sure. But, people still know what the words mean, right? You don't get offended by all the racism in Uncle Tom's cabin, and want to ban the book, right? You wouldn't get offended if someone cosplayed as a black elf, would you?

    Or, maybe you would. People are, after all, fucking morons. Myself included. I don't really care if I have to call a branch main or master, just so that's clear. But it's 100% a fucking stupid reason for the change, and anyone who thinks that matters in any way, I'll think less of, and probably avoid in social settings.

  • I'm not. You implied that my point was that it was easy to write OpenOffice, or the equivalent. From the context, it should have been obvious that this wasn't my point, and I'm not interested in entertaining such straw man arguments, and my responses tend to be rude. Apologies.

    I don't feel like paraphrasing myself either, but in the spirit of good intentions: I made the comparison that document productivity software is orders of magnitude simpler than something like Blender. If you disagree on this, that's fine. Inferring that this means productivity software is easy, that's all on you.

  • should also see what they can do to make Microsoft improve/fix their ODF implementation since it is an ISO standard. There has to be something to get that ball rolling.

    The answer to this should be the same as when some standard S is implemented in software X, Y, Z. If Z doesn't follow the standard, blacklist it until it does. That's the whole point of having a format standard, that it shouldn't matter what software you use.

    If people, companies, institutions and governments have this stance and attitude, MS will need to compete on actual user experience, and not degrading the UX of the competition.

    They'd get their shit together mighty fast. I'd expect them to lose too. Software to edit documents isn't complicated. If we can have things like blender, which I'd say is about 3-4 orders of magnitude a greater endeavour, for which use case has the inverse potential user base, it's pretty obvious that the only reason that MS Office is a thing (i.e. in raking in billions in license fees... 49 billion USD in 2022), is shady business practices.

    It still pisses me off that in my country, when they had a group of experts make the evaluation of which document standard to follow, all experts agreed on ODF. But, because of shady MS money being thrown around, they ignored the recommendation, and went with DOCX.

  • The solution that solves ODF compatibility issues is to not allow applications that do not adhere to the standard. In other words, to explicitly disallow the use of Microsoft products. It's not by accident that MS Office products are slightly fucking up documents, it's by design.

    Since many companies use MS Office, when they do a pilot to see if they can use ODF, it ends up "causing problems". If anyone tries to use it in a mostly Office based workspace, it'll also "causes problems".

    MS only has very good reason to always be just subtly off, and everything to lose if they aren't.

  • Just be aware that windows has a bad habit of fucking up for Linux when you do. Which sounds like it shouldn't be possible, right?

    Windows can claim hardware resources that it doesn't release properly, so your WiFi adapter doesn't work in Linux, but works fine in Windows. Windows also (used to, at least) "correct" a boot partition, because, I presume, it sees something "unknown". Oh, and the system clock might be off every time you switch between one and the other, because windows thinks it makes sense to write the current timezone value and not UTC.

    Those kinds of things.

  • The last four times I've voted. I spent, on average, less than ten minutes from arriving at the place to vote, and leaving that place. And I don't mean at the booth itself. I'd say from when I parked the car, to when I left in the car... but I walked. 10 minutes (the first 3 times) and after moving, 5 minutes last time.

    It's amazing how shit things can get, when enough people deliberately want to make it more shit. You know who and what I'm talking about. If not, I'd be happy to clarify.

  • Calling people stupid and lazy in nicer words is still calling people stupid and lazy.

    I think that's a bit unfair here. What I'm saying is that expectations often seems to be that "Linux should be effortless, but it isn't, so Linux sucks", and then we quickly talk past each other on which aspects we are referring to. Let me make up three categories:

    For users transitioning to Linux from Windows, and ...

    1. ... it shouldn't be an effort, but unfortunately sometimes is frustrating or annoying
    • Hardware control, e.g. drivers. More often than not it works with less effort than on Windows, except for very new hardware, and hardware that actually requires specific software (RGB led patterns, Gaming mouse profiles, all that stuff)
    • NVidia drivers can be a pain
    • When dual booting and Windows manages to fuck up something in Linux, and it looks like Linux is the culprit. (E.g. restart the computer from Windows, but it doesn't release claim on hardware, which doesn't let Linux claim it, so stuff like the WiFi adapter might not work.)
    • Specific software not available, like Adobe, Autodesk, etc.
    1. ... is something you can get someone else to do for you, but it's just how things are, unrelated to Windows -> Linux or the other way around.
    • Installing the OS -- downloading ISO, burning a bootable USB, BIOS, etc..
    1. ... it's expected that you figure out / learn, and if unwilling, Linux isn't for you
    • Using the OS, which at the very least, cursory knowledge of the software/package manager, and roughly how this works.
    • Familiarizing yourself with KDE / Gnome, etc.

    So, I assume people who just thought I was calling people lazy and dumb thought I meant categories 1. and 2. I just mean category 3. If you expect everything to be the same as Windows, and the effort required to understand the differences is too much, then only Windows will fit your needs. The impression I get is a general unwillingness to "figure stuff out". Not knowing shit is fine, complaining and not wanting to put in the effort to know stuff... how is that not being lazy?

    It was intended as kind advice without any the implied judgement of calling people dumb or lazy. If you don't want to have to figure stuff out related to the third category, Linux will likely not be a good experience, or even a productive or good change. If you move to another country, you should make the effort to learn the culture. It's not a good look to complain that things are different.

    If I were to try to suggest "a point" with all of this: Don't suggest to people that Linux is effortless for Windows users. Linux is immensely better, in almost every way (though mind examples in first category). But, it requires learning the basics of how shit works. It's not hard.... the information is well put together and available.