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You don't say.

How the hell is it only 83% of Democrats?

IRL an opener like that receiving a response like that would probably be a sign that these two people are absolutely made for each other, IMO. They'd probably be a fantastic couple and wind up growing old together.

They are already proving the rule of law they claim to adore means nothing to them on many fronts, and on this specific topic of Mamdani have already gone from 0-100. When a court blocks their attempt to revoke his citizenship, then what? "Accidental" ICE abduction I guess, but that might be a little risky even for them with such a high profile and beloved politician.

These motherfuckers never even learned what a prefix was in 4th grade.

Of course he did. The last thing Trump needs to stay in the whitehouse until old age finally takes him, and have the justification that he thinks will be sufficient to start murdering dissidents in the streets is for one side or the other to pop off and the other side to react.

Literally because he would be unbiased.

And now people are complaining that he’s unbiased instead of biased in the opposite way?

So are you claiming he's a progressive or that we shouldn't care that he's not? Because I feel like this started out one way, and is ending another.

Have you never read any political history?

Do you not already know what happens when after a regime change the new one decides to do all the fucked up shit the last one did, but to the opposite group of people?

AND ALSO you claim that wanting an actual progressive to chair the DNC is wanting the democrats to do all the same fucked up shit Trump is doing now? Are we having the same conversation?

I can't imagine how you've taken that from my comments.

Edited to add - if you like Martin that's fine by me. I don't see how you are holding him up as some shining progressive example though, and you've provided nothing but trust me bro to back up that stance.

LOL I'd LOVE to stop paying attention to the crumbling of our government at the willing urging of Republicans. I'm paying a lot of attention. I see crickets from R, or cheerleading, or condemnation of any R who dares break ranks. Since 2017. Except those 6 republicans that Kamala paid to run ads for her when she was trying to win R votes instead of D votes in 2024.

Too much to ask for just one source, eh?

But what the absolute fuck does that have to do with the DNC?

Well, you'd think the DNC chair would be involved in discussions of strategy, but WTH do I know?

This source any better for you? (And speaking of which, did we forget David Hogg when claiming Martin was progressive?)

DNC Elects Moderate Ken Martin as New Chair, Shunning Calls from Progressive Base (FYI that's a link to Democracy Now)

I didn’t click your link, but I hovered and know why you hid it now.

LOL I didn't hide it. That's how you hyperlink things on the internet. It's not like you wouldn't see it upon clicking.

Having said that, I didn't realize it was AI trash.

OTOH, I have provided at least one source to backup my assertion that he's NOT super progressive and does not represent something other than status quo. It turns out it was a shitty source, but I"m also sure that's not where I first saw a similar analysis, so I'll find you a better one.

You have provided trust me bro.

I'd love to see some evidence that the DNC is becoming more progressive. So far I don't see that. I'm not arguing with you out of spite, I'm arguing because I think they are too beholden to corporatism to do anything else, and I don't feel (up to now) that Martin represents a break from that.

The DNC pivoted hard left with Martin

??

Democratic Party rejects dramatic change in leadership vote

Democrats elected Minnesota DFL chair Ken Martin to lead their party on Saturday, picking a longtime insider from a purple state over candidates who argued for more radical reform after their November defeats.

I don’t know what exactly people expect

Stop voting to confirm Trump's nominations might be a start.

We had that until... you know.

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Hey, the French are still more willing to fuck shit up in the name of correcting their government than the US is.

Like ten republicans? I'm not ignoring it, I've seen zero evidence to support this.

WHAT GROUND? I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm angry at you but WHAT GROUND? Will they reject the next truly awful person put up by R, or will they just vote for them again anyway?

I know where my money is at.

They are getting what they pushed for this entire time. They are getting what they had every reason to know was coming when they pulled the lever for Trump (a third fucking time). We're all riding this flaming wreckage together, I'm not going to hold their fucking hand while we go down in the catastrophe they created, all the while being told by them how it's just fucking awesome that we're finally getting things under control.

Thank you!

The 6% have my apologies.

So do all the Republicans who have been frantically writing their representatives and senators in recent years asking them what the fuck has gone wrong that they are ALL supporting this march to fascism. (and yes, I know about Kinzinger etc, all immediately despised by the rest of R when they tried to stand up to Trump)

I figure maybe there are twenty or so of them. If it was enough to do anything at all, then the entire Republican apparatus wouldn't be supporting Trump balls-deep because it would have been clear to them for YEARS that this is not what Republican voters want. But it's not clear, because the twenty mythical decent republicans writing them angry letters isn't really enough to do jack shit. What's clear is that this IS what Republican voters want.

The other thing making it clear this is what Republican voters want - 94% voted for a convicted Felon, who had given them a preview in 2017, and who had been responsible for Jan 06, and who had spent the past four years making sure we all knew that he would do EXACTLY what he is currently doing.

No conservatives in my life ever again if they aren't there by blood relation, and bare minimum for them. I'm almost sixty. My memories of conservatives trying to fuck everything up for people go all the way back to when I was 13. I have no memories of Republican policies doing anything but what they are doing now. Harming people and helping the rich.

Where we are at right now is the logical eventual outcome of every Republican or conservative position I've heard espoused in my lifetime. This is always where they were headed. They finally got control, and they are being just as terrible as anyone ever predicted.

Fuck it, I'm done. I've spent as much of my life as I'm going to acting like there's any possible way I can be compatible with these people. Every last one is dead to me, and I will not ever, under any circumstances, support a Republican for so much as a street sweeper until the day I die.