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Especially since, and correct me if I am wrong, but every instance holds all of the data for all of the other instances too? (that they are federated with).

This means there is an insane amount of redundancy no? With hundreds or thousands of servers the cost would eventually become prohibitive and need to rely on only a select few large servers and thus Lemmy doesn't 'solve' the issue it tries to in that sense.

Or, maybe it's only the bandwidth that becomes an issue and the data storage is actually minimal. If that's the case I can see more how a smaller server could afford to be part of the ecosystem. Perhaps also down the line if not already there could be a cut off point for historical data to avoid bloat.

In some ways maybe but the fact there is enough space for everyone and people don't have to fight for it kinda defeats the most interesting aspects of Place if you ask me.

Thanks - yeah I think you're right that would be the best way to handle that if I need to in the future!

Yeah I mean that makes sense and follows how reddit functions, I think the UI could do with some reworking or clarification on that though. I'm surely not the only one to be confused by it. Ultimately if it lets you fill in 4 boxes and submits fine with no errors, its a little strange that one of the boxes doesn't do anything.

So for example, I posted a link to some Lemmy growth statistics. I posted the source of them to the URL field, I posted a particular graph to the image field (uploaded from my PC) and then I discussed that particular graph in the body field, as well as a title of course.

Upon hitting submit of course, the Source I thought I was providing had been lost

I have also seen people posting articles a lot where there is a relevant image posted, and the article text or a section of it posted to the body I guess to save people clicks. But then the URL/source is missing so you have no idea where the article actually comes from.

I think this system needs a redesign to make it clear how it functions - like reddit is the same in that you can't have a URL as well as an image so it's not a problem, but when you can input 4 different pieces of information and Lemmy effectively deletes one without letting the user know I don't think that's good design or clear at all.

Hmm, yeah I see what you are saying. I mean you're right that would be an insane number of comments wouldn't it.

I wonder then where that figure is from and why it jumped so much?

Yeah, well I suppose it'll still be on a downward trend. How long can they go, where does the rollercoaster end haha.

Honestly I suppose you can never know. Past successes don't guarantee anything and this could be a total flop that gets shit canned in a few years.

Good point. I'm unsure on the exact dates/times/timezones involved but it does sort of look like there was a good increase in comments maybe a day or so before Sync release. If that is not Sync though I'm struggling to think what else would cause it...

Impressive! Honestly I can totally understand this growth myself because it mirrors very well my own interactions here. When third party apps died I came here, tried a bunch of apps, made a bunch of comments and then didn't really stick around because I couldn't find a good enough app I liked.

Then when Sync released I have barely touched reddit and been 95% on Lemmy again.

I am still very impressed if Sync alone is responsible for 4 million additional comments per day though. That is rather staggering if it's true.

Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

That is a fair and good point. I was indeed using reddit as a basis for my assumptions and that may well be different for Lemmy.

I think it's only dishonest if those are not retained.

To say they hit 100m is dishonest but if 9m are sticking around? To me, that counts. Those people are on a whole new platform even if the onboarding was simple.

More very real effects of global warming that will be ignored or blamed on other things no doubt.

Global warming will fuck us indirectly before the weather on a Sunday afternoon is actually the problem, many seem to miss that.

Interesting take. I wonder how it will pan out.

All this, Ryan said, explains why the trolls "are getting more extreme and desperate." The pool of people available to get attention from is shrinking, so the only way to keep the engagement rates as high is to say wilder and nastier things

If that happens then it will just implode quite rapidly. Regular users will just leave and that fuels the fire and Twitter just becomes yet another niche right wing echo chamber in no time.

I do question the claim that 'the trolls are getting more extreme' though. That seems like anecdotal evidence and I wonder if it's actually happening. The author listed many examples of extreme views on Twitter but I could have done the same thing and made the same claim 5 years ago. There has always been loonies on there and some of them get worse and some don't.

All the more reason to use a vpn even for casual browsing I guess. Never know when someone wants to overstep and turn the most trivial thing against you. Even if this is the case now that its been denied, what's to stop this happening elsewhere or at another time? The fact it's been tried once means it will be tried again. No thanks to that.

I dunno, 80% of people lurk and probably 15% of people comment and 5% actually post or something I would imagine (made up the numbers but that'd be my guess).

So getting browsing and commenting out caters to 95% of people, in a time where being the 'first to market' out of the big reddit android clients is probably quite a big deal, that makes a lot of sense rather than delaying release until posting works.

Ok, guess that actually makes sense then. Well heres hoping they get in the mix with an already exciting mid field down the line.

https://github.com/laurencedawson/sync-for-lemmy/issues/133

That's actually such a smart move for Shopify to incentivise use of their platform over others.

It's still the fastest anyone would have ever reached 9m DAU in the history of the internet I would imagine so if they retain and grow from there is a solid launch.

But it could shrivel and die from here so I suppose it remains to be seen. Ultimately with the barrier of entry so low you can never tell how legit this userbase is, since its not really a natural growth to 9m.