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Not sure about Samsung OneUI (or whatever it's called at the moment), but similar thing happens when you enable predictive back gesture under Developer options on stock Android.

kind of like gangsta "yo"

you in Chinese is not pronounced like "you" in English. totally different vowel sound

And someone's job is to control that this person does their job properly. Which is the someone's boss who delegated the task.

Yep, AD David Halls'.

I couldn't give less shits about him in particular, because being non-american I have never heard of him before I saw this particular meme on Lemmy.

I just wish to believe at least in the justice system in the US. I'm still skeptical about the Rittenhouse verdict but if the fucking armourer isn't found guilty and Baldwin is instead, then this just confirms your system is broken.

No it's not, stop playing dumb. A gun seller's job is to sell guns. Even if a potential school shooter buys one, the gun seller has done their job. Who failed perhaps is the person who issued a gun license to a potential school shooter, but then you can make a case of whether potential school shooters can be detected before the act.

An armorer's job is to make sure guns on set are handled safely. A revolver which was under her supervision has not been handled safely, and as far as we know it was her and precisely her mistake that left the live bullet inside the barrel, therefore she failed at her job and is culpable for the death. This in no way compares to a gun seller.

No it doesn't. If I cut the brakes in your car and it causes you to run into someone, then it's my fault, not yours.

Baldwin could very well be the armorer's direct supervisor and father and it still would be her and the ADs fuck-up the gun shot a live round.

She was hired for the sole purpose of making sure all guns on set are handled safely and she simply failed: the shooting is her fault and I'm sure despite all of us getting riled up in the comments this in fact will be the final verdict

Your comment, if anything, proves it's the AD who's responsible

If you hired a professional armorer to handle guns safely and then have had assistant producer check it and confirm the gun is safe then I imagine you would have assumed it actually is.

who did not enforce any safety standards (allowed crews to bring live ammo to the set, allowed armourer to be subpar), and ended up with one of his staff dead.

And you're basing these two claims on?

How does this even apply to the situation?

I'm basing what I say on the Wikipedia article and the two years old Legal Eagle video, but it seems it wasn't his negligence, but rather the armorer's and the assistant producer's:

According to a search warrant, the guns were briefly checked by armorer Gutierrez-Reed, before assistant director Halls took the Pietta revolver from the prop cart and handed it to Baldwin.[39][40] In a subsequent affidavit, Halls said the safety protocol regarding this firearm was such that Halls would open the loading gate of the revolver and rotate the cylinder to expose the chambers so he could inspect them himself. According to the affidavit, Halls said he did not check all cylinder chambers, but he recalled seeing three rounds in the cylinder at the time. (After the shooting, Halls said in the affidavit, Gutierrez-Reed retrieved the weapon and opened it, and Halls said that he saw four rounds which were plainly blanks, and one which could have been the remaining shell of a discharged live round.)[41] In the warrant, it is further stated that Halls announced the term "cold gun", meaning that it was empty.[39] Halls's lawyer, Lisa Torraco, later sought to assert that he did not take the gun off the cart and hand it to Baldwin as reported, but when pressed by a reporter to be clear, she refused to repeat that assertion

Btw, holy fucking shit I hate lawyers

Perhaps because Baldwin, as far as we know, did everything correctly? He had the armorer prepare the gun and assistant producer check it. The armorer failed to do it correctly and the assistant producer failed at their part of the job. They are guilty of the accident, because they did not follow the procedure required, not the person who gave them the task

Exactly. Safety comes in layers and therefore assistant producer David Halls was supposed to double check the gun after the armorer prepared it. He failed at it, the armorer failed at their job and it's theirs and only theirs fault.

Ok but you have an expert saying “this gun will fire blanks when you pull the trigger, I loaded them, nobody else can touch the gun except me and you under my supervision. When the camera starts rolling in a bit you’re going to point it at that person and fire the blanks in accordance with the script. After the scene ends you hand the gun back to me because nobody else is allowed to touch it”

And not only that, but also producer (David Halls), whose job was to double check the armorer's preparation of the gun, confirms it is safe. I think people claiming this was in any way Baldwin's fault are taking a piss

It has to be someone's job to make sure guns on set are safe

According to a Wikipedia article on the incident it was the armorer that had previous experience with accidental discharges of firearms and I guess it's the mere point of their presence during filming to make sure all guns are handled safely. Their job was to hand a safe gun to the actor, they didn't do it and a person died. I don't fucking see one reason to charge the actor, regardless of whether they happen to be a producer or not, and not charge the person actually responsible for the accident.

Wait he was handed live gun, which was supposed to fire blanks and yet it's him getting charged and not the propmaster. what the fuck? what am I missing?

Lol, no, not a joke. These are regressive changes