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You sound more concerned about the extremely racist history of the US than how many other nations were able to cement many a workers' right in their legislation through voting for the right policies

Not 'harder'. Smarter, better and more consistently.

And yeah the US is the only country that never meddled in or abused other countries for economic gain, or benefitted from slavery in any way, so that's the only one in the world where workers' rights really count. Right

Sure. Mass movement, politicians, pen, paper, law

Leave one of those out and it probably won't work

Well, the US only enacted it in 1937

So I only have basically all of Europe off the top of my head

Do you want cheap eggs or not

Can we at least call it Super Genocide?

Can't call them idiots though

They just pulled the only lever they had

They're bound for Paradise

And do you think it was the bombers that wrote this into law, or elected politicians?

edit: and why did other countries manage to get it into law a lot faster than the US?

I'm not talking about becoming a democracy, I'm talking about *improving *and modernizing their democracies. As well as, well, voting for and enacting all the policy examples you listed

Most other countries got there by voting people into power that wrote and voted these principles into law. Voted for people that improved their democratic processes.

If you think it doesn't matter that you voted for the most capitalist candidate as long as you do a little Robin Hood shit on the side, you've seen too many movies and not enough history imo

Me and a few others here are responding to people claiming that this attack "murdered an insane number of civilians", "killed a majority of civilians", "was like an anthrax attack" and so on.

I'm showing publicly available information and how that leads to me to conclude that the above statements go against all logic.

Now, if your final argument is that one can't really comment on any news from the Middle East because 'we can't know' then yeah, I guess I don't have any more rebuttal for that

Should they have somehow forced them to stay while they were bombing Hezbollah positions? How?

I understand why someone who did not go to college would not necessarily understand how tariffs will raise prices or how trickle down economics has never had empirical success

And do you think it's a good thing that this lack of understanding motivates them to go 'pull that lever', cancelling out your own vote?

They haven’t [x, y, z, ...]

And do you feel like any of those things you want are more likely to happen with more people voting for the GOP? Is the fastest way to get there to vote for politicians that viciously oppose these measures? Do you think other countries magically got these things passed by voting against them?

I would advise you to read your own posts again

Yes, I am claiming most of the injured must have been Hezbro's. You clearly seem to have taken the opposite position in this post:

Now your claim is that most or all of the 3500 injured were terrorists? Really?

When talking about the civilian casualties you claimed I was ignoring:

the thousands of wounded and the other 10 dead people

So you have the 2 children (clearly civilians) and the other 10 people wiki states were civilians sandwiching these 'thousands of wounded' that I'm 'ignoring in my calculation'. Why would you add those 'thousands of wounded that I'm ignoring' in there if not to claim that they were civilians and not Hezbros??

Why would you post that first quote if you yourself agree that most of those injured were actually Hezbros and not civilians (something you're advising me not to challenge)?

This could all be cleared up really easily if you just say how many of the injured you think are civilians and what you're basing that on

Well you suggest that them lacking higher education and privilege, and being too busy with a family keeps them from seeing the same thruth that you do: that Trump's policies are actually harmful for them. So when you ask "what have the dems done to earn their vote?", you yourself know the answer. Do you celebrate them voting against their own interests because they're less educated?

So, they’re idiots, but you’re not blaming them?

Lol, that's your question after literally quoting me saying "I’m blaming Trump voters for being idiots" ?

They have not one but many levers to pull, and they chose the one that's going to hurt them (and many others) the most. It's like when Waze tells you you're going to be late for your appointment you do a 180 and drive your car against traffic honking because 'the rational option' wasn't going to get you there on time. Sorry for not wanting to be a passenger in that car, and calling the driver an idiot

No, they shouldn't. But how should they react to their civilians being attacked when they're staying on their side of the border?

Should Israel allow Hezbollah to kill as many civilians as they want, to avoid being called terrorists on the internets?

I'm blaming them for exercising their rights? I'm blaming Trump voters for being idiots and working class Trump voters as being the biggest idiots.

It's great you're doing volunteer work but you sound like you consider yourself as an adult looking over mere children, apparently largely based on their skin color, and think your children should be given some slack.

They are adults, they can vote, and the GOP correctly identified that skin color is not something magical that shields them from having just as many idiots either holding strong conservative beliefs or believing in populist economic messaging. Preferably both. And if the dems aren't handing them out any gifts because of their skin color anyway, then what exactly is left holding them from voting for the conservative party?

Now beware, before you go off accusing me again, that I'm not saying people of Latino or African American descent are somehow magically more inclined to hold conservative beliefs or otherwise being idiots. They were always there. The problem lies in the fact that now the GOP has found out they can easily target them. And in the US it always takes 2 smart people to cancel out 1 idiot, as the latter is much easier to convince to go vote.

Can you explain how you came to the conclusion that most of the 3500 injured people must have been civilians?