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I think they've given them far too little for that. Russians keep gaining territory which will eventually break the Ukrainian morale. If the line doesn't move or moves back a bit that's a whole other perspective.

Do you think the Arab Palestinian leaders believed in respecting the potential partitition??

Indeed, many regions saw uprisings against the Ottomans, with some being genocided and some managing to break off and form their own country. Depending on the period and sultan, jews were actually better off under the Ottomans than they were under other muslim or christian rulers. Relatively speaking of course, because they were always still systemically discriminated against based on their religion. When they saw the Ottoman empire itself turn away from the relative self-rule system for religions towards forced pan-islamism, and the regions that managed to break away towards their own religious fundamentalism (because the factions coming out on top were almost always of such aligment), one could see the writing on the wall and the logical escape path would be to try and form their own country as well.

You seem to have a very, very simplistic idea of the rather complicated and less black and white history here

The first immigrants that expanded the congregation that eventually grew into Israel were 'internal' , hoping that this would allow them to escape or alleviate discrimination by their Ottoman rulers. But the first 'big push' in those early days came from Ukraine and Russia, hoping to escape the genocides and creating a new country from a slice of the crumbling Ottoman Empire.

Wow that's a lot of analogies wrapped in there

Say you and your Trump-lubbin buddies are riding your lifted truck and you see a trans kid walking on the side of the road. One of your friends can't jumps off and punches them out, just because they couldn't control their need to physically fight the gay agenda any longer. You're still cheering him on when a van full of Antifa dudes pulls up and they beat the perpetrator, your buddies and yourself to a pulp. And I mean really, really pulpy. Also they bomb your truck

Sure, your hatred for Antifa and the Gay Agenda might have grown even stronger by this altercation. But would you still think your buddy attacking that kid was a smart idea? Would you follow him when he goes after the next one?

Well there are a lot more (and better) sources on these developments than just this one article, I didn't know we had to pretend the outside world doesn't exist anymore after we've entered a thread

But even if we have to limit ourselves to just this article: it would be very interesting if they put the US president in front of the press to triumphantly announce a ceasefire is going into effect without first checking if all of the parties really agree to it

You don't have to let it slide, I welcome you to analyse the situation to the fullest of your abilities.

I just think trying to compare it to Ukraine is quite dumb. Even now you have to move your argument from the '67 situation to the broader idea of the partition of Mandatory Palestine. Morocco's annexation of the Western Sahara territory, for example, is much more comparable in that regard than the classic cold war style territory push happening in Ukraine.

Did Hezbollah's deal include total disarmament by Israel?

Who am I defending?

Well technically the USSR took it from Russia and gave it to Ukraine.

Anyway if you go back far enough the Russians stole it from the Crimeans and later deported all of them, replacing the entire population of the peninsula with proud Russians, ready to man the naval base.

How's that for a comparison with Palestine lol

Are you suggesting that Hezbollah didn't agree to the deal, or that that's not part of it? Cause I didn't see anything that either of those would be the case, and plenty of the contrary.

It seems like one half of your brain is thinking on Ukraine, the other half on Palestine, and they keep crossing into eachother :-)

I don't know which country you are in but if a neighbour declared a naval blockade and surrounded you with their armies, is your only thought that 'they are looking for a diplomatic solution'?

Is membership of Hamas or Hezbollah an ethnicity for you?

Then how about disarmament within 20 miles?

Thanks. But I see another disclaimer with 'mostly reversible'... For children I think there would be a lot less opposition if it was only requested for fully reversible treatments.

Sorry, but that information is from 6+ months ago. Most of the general population and especially the non-shias did not feel the real fallout from Hezbollah attacking Israel until September.

The survey, conducted between February and April 2024

I'm saying the history of the creation, partition and fighting over Palestine is a little bit different from the history of Russia, Ukraine and the Donbas

If you want to talk about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict and all its horrors including the prisoner situation we can, I don't need you to ignore it. But it's dumb to want to pull that into a discussion on why that would somehow make the conflict the same as Rus vs Ukr

I don't think they are. I never read or hear anything about gender affirming care being limited to things that are reversible. It's a deliberate euphemism that can be used for anything. If the fight isn't about irreversible changes, why not separate the two so at least one can get accepted?

I'm personally against the breast enhancements for children that you mention as well, but in that case I think it's generally accepted as tattoo's are: with permission from the parents and not paid by the public.

You seem to have a very one sided view on this.

Nasser and his allies knew that restarting their naval blockade would be a cause for war for Israel. They massed troops on the borders, threw out the peacekeepers overseeing the Strait and then announced they would be restarting their blockade.

So was it a certainty that the muslim coalition was going to attack Israel first? No. Would a naval blockade and enemy troops ready to cross their borders from all sides be a tenable situation for Israel? I don't know if you're familiar with the map of Israel but having 'unfriendly' troops in the West Bank creates a huge strategic problem. They chose not to take the risk and destroy or scare them away.

You're certainly right that the ultrazionists made sure not to 'miss any opportunity' when it came to the spoils of war. But it's also wrong to ignore that the opportunity to do so was largely given to them by their hostile neighbours.

I think it's because the term 'gender affirming care' is explicitly chosen to be able to include surgery. If it's 99% about reversible hormone treatment, maybe that needs to be decoupled in order to make it more acceptable to the public

Thanks for all the info. Can you explain how hormone treatment for children would be non-permanent? I'd think that adding or substracting hormones, like say growth hormones, would always leave traces throughout ones further life