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Yes as an overarching critique that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. My problem is that this doesn't absolve us from our responsibility. If choice A leaves trails of chemicals behind but costs less than B that leaves purity behind. I can definitely critique people who choose to get A.

Mainly because the other option is to choose to not consume. For example veganism doesn't apply to what you're saying. It's a conscious decision based on ethical values. The same thing can be true for people who don't use cars.

And even if there is a choice between lesser evils, it's still a choice of consequence.

That's a mischaracterization of what it means to argue from ideology. They only have to accept the idea that ownership of the means of production means ownership of the pollution from the means of production.

Which is a. Very common and b. The only explanation through which this research makes sense without attributing malice.

You are the person to set in motion the apparatus necessary to accomplish the task that you wanted to be accomplished.

Yes you live in this late stage capitalist hellscape with the rest of us, but that doesn't absolve you from being critical and making the best decisions in it.

Okay so you rather think they were doing it on purpose than doing from ideology. I have a bit more regard for people I guess

You think you're not?

The problem here is that this research works from a Capitalist understanding of responsibility. That is to say that Besos is responsible for the emissions of Amazon, musk for space x, etc. Which means absolutely nothing. It's a bullshit number.

"Sell it to who Ben? Fucking aquaman?"

What?

That's just you, with intelligence, trying to explain what he, without intelligence, is doing. You're projecting intelligence on him because he won capitalism, and Capitalism wants you to think it's because of merit. It isn't, he's an idiot. Look at the name of his child.... Do you think this is a person with foresight?

Thank you!

Is this a typo or the latest expression I have to remember now?

There was no real indication for the scope and intensity of the hamas attacks. Based on US and Israeli Intel. There were some kind of warning signs, but nothing pointing to this ferocity. I think fighters got far further than they could dream of, and the severity of the response is a direct reaction to the failure of the isreali army to see and stop the attack. It's difficult to believe that the kremlin had more and better information to know that an attack would lead to war on the scale we see today. And I'm willing to believe that Russia sees benefits in arming hamas through the lens of geopolitics, they aren't controlling the actions of hamas in any meaningful way, I certainly don't believe that.

Putin is just taking advantage and is absolutely never harmed by being seen as some kind of geopolitical mastermind. He isn't.

There is nothing wrong with protecting your sanity. Why would you want to be exposed to vile nonsense, you're not going to read breitbart forums in your spare time are you? Like... You're the only one looking out for you online. The platforms are just trying to turn your participation into profit.

Take googles 60 billion profit and stop complaining. But unfortunately that's not reality.

The growth of YouTube's revenue has always been steadily climbing. But it's far too slow to be a competitive investment. It's only like a percentage or two per year, that's not a rate that investors want to see. So yeh Google is putting like a couple of percent more ads on YouTube every year that is necessary to stay somewhat relevant in the market.

Of course there is a limit, at some point you can't put more ads into your system. I think they feel they are at that limit, and they are, it's getting insane with the ads. . They try to get some percentage of people to stop ad block or some percentage to subscribe.

But it's just delaying the inevitable demise. At some point they are out of people to milk for money, so growth will stop. So investors will pull out and YouTube will stop existing. This is just how it works.

Stop feeling bad. Someone or something will take its place. It will start small and grow and grow until it also dies. They could have 60 billion profit 'forever' but that's not how capitalism works. Capitalist are going to capitalist and there is nothing you can do about it. It doesn't matter what business model, or user experience, or quality. No capitalist cares. You and I care, but you and I are just secondary, afterthoughts, inconveniences. They just want us to do as they say, play the game, and stop complaining..

But it's already a business that is making money and turning a profit for Google. And when I say Google I mean Alphabet, but that's just set up to obfuscate, so Idc.

They aren't my friends first of all. I rather have you alive and vegan than dead and leaving a stain on the planet. And lastly I don't think that hypocrisy is something you should be judging.

Funniest part is when you called me the ostrich

Funniest part is when you call me the ostrich.

Opinion. Not a point

Eating meat requires a victim. You literally have to kill another being for it. You can't deny this, because it's a fact. And vegans do not want to participate in that. This isn't complicated. You choose to participate in the victimization of animals when you are eating an animal that is grown and/or killed for your products. Doesn't matter the circumstances, doesn't matter how, why, when. The animal that is killed is a victim, doesn't get much clearer than that.

You're making it out to be black and white because a child can do this logic. But it's not black and white, there are plenty of edge cases to discuss, and that's literally what the vegan community is doing all the time with many proponents of many different opinions.

But we're vegan because we accept this simple logic and wish to minimise it as much as possible. And food is the easiest, since our body doesn't need it. Plenty of vegan solutions available for the many cases where animals are victims. No need for leather, no need for wool, no need for honey, etc. Minimising animal victims is the goal here. It can never be zero, it can never be black and white.