Neshura @ neshura @bookwormstory.social

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I may have an extremely warped opinion on this due to several reasons (imo mostly due to irl encounters with adult people that would put you on a watch list due to how young they look) but I think in the end it usually boils down to anime/manga just being terrible media for portraying how old a character actually is. The oldest anime character you can draw will still look significantly younger than a person you meet irl simply because the art style hides a lot of the age marks.

Edit: which is not to say that there isn't a lot of CSAM hiding, it's just imo the stuff that gets popular on SFW platforms is rarely that stuff

I see two options as to why you made that comment:

1: you just blindly believe what that admin said and have no opinion of your own, if that is the case I highly doubt a discussion is possible

2: you actually believe anime is csam in which case a discussion won't be possible either because we don't share the same definition of what csam is

As a closing note I find it hilarious that someone from hexbear of all places tries to ridicule people for trying to move to a safe space for their community

Edit: case in point against the csam claim is the fact that the instance in question got re-added to join-lemmy.org because the material that got it removed was not remotely seen as csam by the other maintaners

Kakao nuked the official Tachiyomi Extension repo because they "infringe on their copyright".

The Extension repo does not and never has offered copyrighted material, it merely facilitated access to sites that do within Tachiyomi. Essentially it was a collection of hyper specific Browsers. The repo is gone, the extensions are not (they are now in a different repo provided by a user). Tachiyomi itself allows for 3rd party repos now and everyone is mad at Kakao for making the App less usable.

they smoked their own supply is how. The management team ate the legal departments bs about how they are fighting a righteous cause here.

Nope they are only using API's from the various hosting sources. That's what makes this request so blatantly fraudulent. For all intents and purposes Tachiyomi is just a Browser specialized for Manga

I mean yeah let's try it absolutely, just doubtful it'll work.

yeah I don't think they are actively messing with the modlog. That would get them a pretty huge outrage if discovered so I think it's more likely just buggy, wouldn't be the only thing currently not working as intended.

I highly doubt 1 will work given the reaction they had initially to claims it contains csam. 2 could potentially work though, maybe they'd have to write in a disclaimer of sorts to get the admins on board. If the link is the problem and not the wording just writing the instance name without a link would also work I guess.

@N3DSdude, @Nami, @ram, @rammy What are the mods' thoughts on this idea?

Not sure, never happened to me yet. I'd guess so. I noticed with the previous discussion post because I have instance admin superpowers (jokes aside as admin I still see deleted posts even on other instances)

Essentially Kakao Entertainment abused DMCA to get all extensions removed despite the Extensions themselves not containing any DMCA material. What allowed this to spiral so out of control (it started out with only Bato.to, Mangadex and Kissmanga being removed) was that the Tachiyomi devs have absolutely 0 spine and 0 will to prevent DMCA abuse. They just folded at the requests immediately without any sort objection or demand to go through GitHub instead (this approach in particular has worked in warding off false DMCA claims because that way the corporations have to somewhat publicly press their illegitimate claim, worked wonders for youtube-dl afaik)

Not surprised in the slightest. Having a doormat DMCA policy and then not even using GitHub as a shield (like youtube-dl for example) is just asking for it. The dev response doesn't really help so I guess the App is dead. Maybe a fork will pick up the pieces but I have no trust in the main repo devs to do the right thing or work in the users interest.

I mean yeah, that's why the talk about moving the stragglers was even brought up. Keeping this anime community is neither in the best interest of the .ml admins nor in the best interest of the community.

I think some people have stockholm from how anime communities were treated on reddit and don't realize that they can get a whole lot less censorship than that. I think it's in everyone's best interest if we move this last piece over. The lemmy.ml admins (at least in part) don't want us here and people coming here likely don't want the same bs censorship that was on reddit. Always ducking your head because getting noticed means half the content of the month gets hammered wasn't fun on reddit and if possible I'd like this to be a better experience than that.

It really isn't the largest though, maybe by users but certainly not by activity. For example the post about "The Boy and Heron" winning a golden globe got 9 comments on the unspeakable instance and only 2 here. From my own experience posting to both that seems to be the norm.

Regarding content removal from what I saw in the modlog the most concerning action other than preventing people from talking about alternatives was removing the Alya-san Key Visuals. So that gives you a good baseline of what will get hammered if noticed: pretty much everything.

The defederation being grounds for removal of all mention is a bit silly but not a discussion I'm willing to go into here as it would be pretty off-topic. I repsect your opinion on the matter but imo it's a very slippery slope to ban talking about something outright.

To be pretty blunt here closing down here is more a formality than anything really, even just stat wise there are slightly more active users on the other instance and the users there are apparently a lot more engaged in discussion than people here.

Yup, that was a bit of a shit show all around, made the rounds in the privacy communities as well and they were not pleased with the blatant censorship over there either. I guess stuff like this is why a lot of those people hang around dbzer0 now. To each interest an instance with fitting policies I guess.

The really sad part though is how it locks in users on lemmy.ml, you can't even really link to a safe haven because doing so is already grounds to get the post/comment removed

To add a bit more opinion: If you have an account on lemmy.ml itself and read/comment in either the Anime or Manga community I urgently recommend you migrate to a different instance. As far as I can tell the instance we shan't name here anymore for fear of admin abuse is still visible on join-lemmy.org after widespread complaints that removing an instance from there based on admin opinion alone is not exactly nice.

Best way to tell you how to find it is go to join-lemmy.org and look for an obviously anime themed instance in the "Art" category. Not sure if just saying that is grounds for removal though, depends on how trigger happy the admins here are.

Differentiating between hostages and prisoners makes absolute sense, the two words mean different things and have each their use case in this conflict. But if (I don't follow the news reporting about this conflict too much unless I'm in a discussion about it) there is a difference in referring to either sides children as "people under 18" while the same is not done for the other side that is, imo, conscious or subconscious manipulation by the news agency. People react strongly to the word children and replacing that with "people under 18" would significantyl diminish that impact. Again, not sure if applicable as I'm not well read on the news articles but if such distinction takes place at all it is worth looking into how often these terms are used for either side comparatively (ie how many % of the time israeli children are referred to as "people under 18" and how many % of the time palestinian children are referred to as "people under 18". Absolute numbers mean little there since one side could just be reported on a lot more, which in itself could be bias)

You do realize you only see the cookie banners because the companies are now forced to show you one? It's not like they started collecting shit only after the GDPR nor is it entirely illegal and unethical to sell user data. The point of the GDPR was to make users aware of which websites are selling which data and give them an avenue (be that declining cookies or leaving the site) to prevent that. Corporations then designed their way around the wording of the GDPR to make declining cookies as difficult as possible which is why we're seeing this push for a revision now. The goal still isn't to make user data based financing impossible, it still is to prevent users from being pushed or bullied into selling their user data against their will.

I think having one community be a hub is a lot better than the split setup we currently have. It makes it hard to discover content, you miss out on discussions, sometimes have to write the same comment twice and if you subscribe to both your feed gets cluttered with duplicate posts.

Not to mention ani.social being an instance dedicated to anime makes community management there a bit easier (although I'm of the opinion any medium-sized community should just get their own instance given the flexibility in management that provides and then cross-post to hub communities like /c/anime)