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First and foremost: You are correct.

Now allow me to try to be funny: Well... Apartments are just pretty square-ish caves.

(Note that I said "try to be funny")

Not sure if high, but OP is definitivelly BASED!

I'd say that only those who manage to write a kernel code that doesn't upset Linus Torvald are true linux users.

A good anime weeby analogy is that nazis are like the demons from Frieren.

They only learnt to speak the polite words so they can easily lie to us and kill us.

Sorry, I wasn't aware it was a reference to jaws.

I'll retract my previous comment then.

Thanks for pointing it out :)

Edit: I sort of missed the first part talking shit about gen x liberals and dirt poor zoomers while also affirming that the republicans aren't changing ^(Citation needed) and "based". The nuance there is just a thin veil for hate speech.

It requires a second or third reading to catch on this, but it is surely a bad take

 

the post of the previous commenter was nuanced.

usually it is a good thing, but since the far-right is blatantly nazi, there are some risk with "nuance"

overall, the previous comment seems to be analyzing how this divide is happening.

my only complaint is that the comment doesn't make clear who are the fuckers who are driving the social divide (spoilers: the right who is nostalgic about the post-war period and want to create a "new" post war period by, well, going full nazi)

As someone said on reddit they don't want a safe space for them.

what they want is to be enabled to shit on everyone else's food and smirk at us while we try to separate their shit from our beans.

It is a power dynamic where they want to force their shit upon us.

they already have their safe space on r/conservative where they go to circle jerk around "the left is bad".

They do get tired from that and there is no new "left is bad" if the entire political spectrum was composed of them.

Far right and conservative hate is a self cannibalizing movement.

Even if they killed all gay, black, hispanic, asian, autistic, disabled and any sort of "the other", then, they would need to find new "others" to start to hate and kill. Their fight is always inward, against the enemy within.

They will proceed to kill white people because either they are not white enough or that they are too white ("ginger" people which should've be considered the "correct type of white" if racism ever made any sense since they are paler than almost any other ethnicity).

So, they need an existing enemy and a platform that enables them to shit on us.

If they ever come to lemmy, the correct path is to ban as soon as they shou their true colors and start to throw shit around.

It only requires a few probing question to know if someone is in good or bad faith.

When the comment goes into 5 or more replies, it is almost always for sure that the conservative answering is in bad faith (only exception is if they clearly show that they are learning something with the discussion and adapting their viewpoints with each new comment)

I ask you to also be careful!

you don't need to feed the trolls to help them see the light.

Treat it like an authoritative (but not authoritarian) parent:

You don't let the kid do whatever inappropriate shit (that is a neglecting parent style), but you do state firmly the rules and give the consequence (authoritative) without making them fear you through spanking or other kinds of abuse (authoritarian).

 

I agree we should not be authoritarian.

But we should also not be neglectful!

 

Specific example:

If someone comes saying that trump did a roman salute, the authoritative answer is: "The nazi salute is a roman salute and both are used to promote fascism (link to wikipedia)".

Simply and blunt, yet "non-judgemental" answer

Now if they reply saying shit like how they are actually different, then just call their bullshit off by saying things like: "I see no reason for someone to defend a roman or nazi salute unless that someone is a nazi. I really hope you aren't a nazi, but if you are, know that you're in the wrong. Period."

Then stop any sort of further replies and start reporting if they keep harping on this (it would be similar to the time out that parents do to younger child).

There are a few misconceptions in your comment:

While I do agree that there are other problems like racism and bigotry which existed before capitalism (based on an answer you gave in another comment) and while I do agree these also need to be addressed, I do disagree that capitalism isn't a major source of problems of modernity.

Why?

Because the cornerstone of capitalism is to use money to generate more money in a feedback loop towards (nonexistent) "infinite money" (which is different from feudalism, roman empire or ancient Egypt which all had some sort of market without being capitalist economies).

SInce it is impossible to make infinity money, an inherent part of capitalism are the crises cycles of boom and bust.

It also makes the creation of services as an afterthought (because making money is more important) and it is also tied to the enshitfication we're seeing today.

 

I think you're calling as "capitalism" a thing that is actually "technological innovation (under capitalism)"

We're all aware of free/open source softwares

We're all aware that it is possible to develop technological innovation outside of capitalist framework (and again: Capitalism = Using money to make more (infinite) money)

almost all of scientific researches advances are because of passion of the researches instead of the greed of capitalism.

Yes... Everyone "needs" money to survive. But I hope you do agree that nobody in the world needs billions of dollars to simply survive.

for God's sake, a lot of people living in "third world" dream of earning 300 dollars a month to survive and consider that making 1000 dollars a month is a small luxury (I'm from brasil and 1000 dollars is around R$ 4000 or R$ 5000 while most people lives with R$3000 or less)

What I'm saying is that, past the required money for surviving and for having a few "luxuries", there is no need for anyone having millions or billions of dollars every month and that it would be possible to keep scientific and technological grow under such conditions because curiosity and desire for changes are part of human nature.

if it was entirely impossible for humans to develop things without being paid before, then nothing around open/free software would exist.

Even if it was the roman salute, it would still be a fascist salute.

And there is a reason why people say Nazi-Fascism.

Because a Nazi IS a Fascist.

And both must be banned from public discourse!

just to give historical context, Germany, Japan and Italy supported each other in their nazi-fascism for the exatc reason you already said. So there is no surprise that it is happening again with America and Israel

Nope. It is the far right gaining immense amount of power while both moderate right, left and "extreme left" are yelling at the terrorists (far right) wanting to crash the airplanes in the towers.

Be aware that if you lean in the far right, you risk going down with the terrorists while the "osama bin laden" of this story (and to be clear, I mean Elon) will be hidden behind the safety of his bunker.

as you can read on al jazeera, not only Elon did something that clearly resembles the nazi salute but he also has ties with the nazi party.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/21/elon-musk-at-trumps-inauguration-whats-the-history-of-the-nazi-salute

There is no excuse or funny remark to be made about it AND there is nothing to defend Elon about it. THIS SHIT MUST BE CALLED OUT!

 

Also, being "anti-woke" is a dog whistle for nazis and we know that Elon claim to be anti-woke, anti-trans and anti-lgbt.

Also, for all the anti-wokes: WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE ABOUT THE PRIVATE SEX LIFE OF OTHERS INSTEAD OF MINDING YOUR OWN BUSINESS FOR FUCKS SAKE????

I now regretting making the previous comment.

I made the previous comment in a jesting tone like "same... but different... but still the same"

Also, I went into a rabbit hole seraching for variations of nazi salute (because I know from history that brasil integralist movement had their own version of roman salute called anauê) and found about the bellamy salute.

Seeing that the nazis are actually using the "roman salute" as an actual excuse, I'll take back what I said.

He is doing the nazi salute. Period.

No need to think. One can just read:

Edit: I'll keep the links, but I must call spade a spade: Elon did the nazi salute. Period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute

Also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute (also known as Fascist salute)

Forget all that story of different salutes and making fun of elon by saying that he is making the american "nazi salute"

Lets call a spade a spade.

Elon is doing the nazi salute and there is no other way to take it other than being serious.

That fucker must get down from power.

PS: I removed my previous snarky comment about bellamy salute and made this new one because it is a serious business