Trial finds cashless gaming makes little difference to gambling behaviour on pokies
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Yeah we probably agree more than disagree. I just see taxing sin being a cop out that leaves all the harm of privatisation, all the harm of regressive taxation and corruption of peverse incentives, and then cops out on the social responsibility by going "we're already beating you poors with the stick, what more could you want from us!?"
Defs if it was government run as harm minimisation (which incidentally is what I'd like to see done for alcohol and other drugs) it should be done in a way which does not promote or glorify it but also doesn't shame people for wanting to do it. Just try not to get people hooked (or perhaps: not try to get people hooked) and offer non judgemental and non patronising assistance for those who want to stop or limit themselves.
Yeah nah, the sin tax on smoking already heavily penalises less privileged people and is very ends-justify-means. Plus gambling is much older than nicotine in terms of habits humans continue to do.
Smoking stuff is a pissweak compromise position trying to undo harm by massive corporations with powerful vested interests. Without mass market cigarettes and advertising no way so many people do it for the mild stimulant hit. Restricting gambling is more like trying to stop stimulant drug use in general vs smoking specifically.
Besides, while I don't gamble I can acknowledge that a few bets or a game of cards can be pretty fun. If we can manage the framework it happens in, such that the goal is a good balance between fun and harm vs the capitalist framework of maximum wealth extraction then I don't see the harm. It's not like a game of poker is a worse decision than a bottle of wine or sitting in watching tv vs going for a run or something.
So it's a bit cooked but basically humans do stuff that's harmful, governments supplying it at least removes profit incentives.
You can't ban gambling out of existence but a government body can be set up in such a way that odds are fairer, only less addicting games are offered (e.g. no pokies because flashing lights and sounds are satanic), the rooms have natural light and clocks etc. Any money made goes into gambling assistance programs or community improvement or whatever.
Would people still get hurt? yes. Would there be corruption? yes. But there's no way it can be worse than private operations which still have all the same problems with less transparency and being harder to regulate, plus the profit incentive.
Think of it like injecting rooms, trust me it's way safer and less glamorous to shoot up /get supplies at one of those than a house party.
I know a lot of using it was actually kinda awful. I don't long for missing a finale episode because it was a bit too rainy for the signal to get through but there was something wonderful about how tactile and beautiful analogue tech was.
Also it felt really really good to be able to slap something into working.
Gambling shouldn't be privatised. Idk why we allow people to profit from addiction. Their incentive is just to make it worse.
I think you better lay off the "coffee alternatives" if you take my meaning ;)
wtf is this comment
There is an element of ease of access to suicide methods that influence attempt likelihood and success but it's very hard to determine whether someone would choose a different method or stop. Or if they would just show up as a death of despair down the line.
Nice argument there, but you see you typed something wrong at 2 am therefore I will not engage.
I am so smart and cultured.
He's a multi millionaire who admits to still eating red meat despite having the funds to hire a professional chef to make delicious plant based meals every meal. He also admits to eating chickens while decrying it.
Fuck me for holding people with more power to higher standards I guess.
He's also intensely classist and has deeply problematic views about overpopulation. Doing the very British thing of talking about too many African people while completely ignoring the massively asymmetric resource consumption that he takes part it.
I just think if you're one of the most privileged people on the planet and you think the world is dying you ought to live a life which if the average person lived would be sustainable. Not do some token effort, far below that of your average poor person, and claim that's all you can manage.
There's a mechanics textbook called "there once was a classical theory" and it opens with:
There once was a classical theory Of which quantum disciples were leery. They said, “Why spend so long On a theory that’s wrong?” Well, it works for your everyday query!
they hated the rat because she made them think critically about social responsibility.
he's still a hipocrite... like yes it's good that he advocates, it would be better if he followed through and used some of his staggering, mind meltingly large wealth to actually do something.
Instead he pays lip service while using an enormous amount of resources and being shitty. Is lip service better than no service? yes. Is it good enough for one of the most privileged individuals on the planet? no.
If even a billion people lived like him we'd destroy the world in a week.
Yeah sure. Skipping the Camembert and buying a plant based really fermented one instead is just too hard for a multi millionaire. What an unrealistic standard! He only thinks the apocalypse is nigh.
I mean that's like equivalent to like walking the 60 km commute you have to do. Be realistic, it's not like you manage to be plant based on a budget that's below median for your city or something. It's not like you give up cheese entirely because you can't afford the vegan replacements but recognise the cruelty of animal ag. What's a millionaire famous guy to do?
“We must change our diet. The true tragedy of our time is still unfolding – the loss of biodiversity,” Sir David says in the film. “Half of fertile land on Earth is now farmland, 70 percent of birds are domestic, majority chickens. There’s little left for the world. We have completely destroyed it.
and yet
“I do eat cheese, I have to say, and I eat fish. But by and large I’ve become much more vegetarian over the past few years than I thought I would ever be.”
Sure he helps fund some decent shit. He's rich, knighted, connected to aristocracy. He's also a spineless twerp.
What's false?
Erwin and Attenborough didn't believe either of those things.
Attenborough is a massive hypocrit who wants the poors to go plant based but refuses to, and also thinks the world is overpopulated but wont use fewer resources.
Erwin's job was literally harassing animals for entertainment until one finally got the better of him.
Labor is fucking allergic to working with the greens because the greens have ideals.
Sure sometimes they're a bit stupid but of the parties with a regular presence in the houses they're the only ones not dragging us to hell.
I'd prefer it to what we have for sure. I just think we can do better and should hold our government to actually governing and using power to build systems to provide the needs of society (of which vice is many!) in a pro-social fashion.