CO2 Gas Chamber Rule
naevaTheRat @ naevaTheRat @lemmy.dbzer0.com Posts 13Comments 964Joined 2 yr. ago
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I'm not sure how you get "Breeding people to kill them in their prime and eat their bodies" from "death is inevitable".
Could you step through your chain of reasoning please?
I am not sure how you ethically kill someone who doesn't want to die.
On principle I don't object to scavenging, I find it repulsive but just like how if you ate your parents when they died nobody would be hurt per se collecting road kill or something is not unusually cruel. Just creepy and gross given the lack of necessity.
But chickens are bred, the excess are killed young, chickens themselves have been selected for some pretty nasty traits in favour of making them more useful to us. Their ancestors live much longer, lay 10x fewer eggs, and don't grow oversized straining their skeletons. It's like pugs and stuff, we've bred in pain. I doubt your grandmother would give them medical care and comfort aimed at optimising their lives and happiness and only eating them after natural passing.
It's like when people try to say "oh but such and such a slavery was better than this other slavery" or something. Like ok it's probably true idk Roman house slaves had better lives than medieval Russian serfs but it doesn't fundamentally change how unjust the social relation was and how unnecessary that injustice was.
Thanks for letting us talk about one of the largest ongoing horrors as a treat.
Perhaps in time you would consider not enthusiastically supporting and partaking in it?
Oh yeah. The gas dissolves in the mucose around their eyes too, acidifying it like soda water.
Male chickens discarded from hatcheries are thrown live into a blender, "maceration", or gassed.
Don't ask about what happens to the male babies from dairy cow pregnancies for milk, or why veal is so tender.
There are... reasons why people go vegan despite all the vitriol we get thrown our way for daring to not be silent about this nightmare. Slaughterhouse workers get PTSD, even the people most ok with actually doing this shit have their minds recoil and fold in on themselves in the face of the sheer horror.
Asafetida. People call it horrible unless cooked but imho it just smells like garlic++. It's sulfurous, but so is garlic and a lot of food really. Sulfur isn't necessarily an unpleasant smell to me. As far as I can tell the smell of asafetida doesn't change when cooking, it just gets milder.
Healthy compost also smells kinda nice, rotting meat is awful but if you're not getting putricene and co from anerobic nitrogen decomp decay mostly smells damp and warm and spicy.
Durian also smells amazing, but that's a pretty popular opinion given the wild popularity of the fruit. Potentially more sulfur not aversive stuff there.
In the hate camp peanut butter. It is overpowering and early in the day makes me throw up. My wife adds it to coffee sometimes which makes the entire house smell of peanut butter for hours. It's a very powerful and cloying smell.
Seems reasonable, takes some of the wind out of NIMBY arguments.
I hope we can see better development, slapping dogshit mc mansion inches from fence single family houses down then calling it a day sucks.
dose is about 0.5 g for "a standard drink" type level. Usual recreational doses are 2-4 mg. About the same number of doses as alcohol for getting drunk.
Unconsciousness starts becoming likely around 7 g. severely depressed breathing around 10 g. Death gets dramatically more likely (although it's easy enough to keep someone alive with care). It's all in roughly the same ballpark as alcohol, just alcohol tends to make you upchuck the stuff that would fuck you.
Black market random dilutions are dangerous especially when mixed with alcohol. The real danger is dosing too much 1,4 butanediol which is a prodrug and so has a delayed effect. Obviously if people are given something different to what the expect that almost always massively increases risk.
Hopefully people don't need a college degree in literature to understand basic subtext.
I think it's about learning that it's worth doing more than anything else.
a plant based diet is completely healthy as long as you eat varied foods and don't try something stupid like subsisting on apples and dandelions.
There are world renowned athletes who are plant based...
I don't think you're promoting it, but hosting web services in Australia often gets MIB knocking on your door so I get the admin's sketchiness.
It is false so say it's not addictive at all. It is pleasurable and you could form a dependency on it that could be lethal to withdraw from like all GABAergic drugs. I have personally never see that, and because if it's short halflife it would be difficult, but it's not hard to imagine someone getting a bit too into the pleasure.
That said even if someone was taking it every single time they would go drinking and they did that frequently it would still be safer than alcohol.
Still, be honest about drugs. you can fuck your life up with just about anything and nobody should use something under the false notion it's harmless/risk free.
Yeah so if you're taking anything potent you should dilute it first. A dose is like 1-3 g with 7 g onwards becoming extremely dangerous.
Like alcohol you it varies based on body mass/stomach content/fatigue/random biological factors. Like only someone with a deathwish would start a night of drinking by skulling half a bottle of vodka you absolutely should not be ingesting unknown fluids you got off some random (that are hopefully dyed to prevent confusion with water/make dosing someone's drink harder) at a dose you expect to be near heavy.
In a sane world you would get like 3 packs of 1 g doses or something with childproofing. Those doses would be diluted in a larger volume of fluid. We don't live in that world so it's about as predictable as random homebrew moonshine.
As always if someone is going to take drugs they should get them tested (cantest in the act will do it if you live there), have a sober friend, and be in a safe location.
You are talking out of your fucking arse why not see what actual scientists have to say?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0140673607604644
The first author was the former head of the advisory council to the UK. They rank GHB as less habit forming than almost everything else scoring a 1.19 vs alcohol's 1.93 or heroin's 3. Steroids are at 0.8, for context.
This article is scaremongering nonsense. GHB is a very safe drug by almost all metrics. It's endogenous so no allergies, it doesn't damage organs, it is not particularly habit forming, it is relatively short acting, it doesn't cause confusion about the world/erratic behaviour/psychosis. The one real risk is that it's a respiratory depressant and that it's LD 50 is only a few tens of times a standard dose rather than the millions of like LSD, putting it in the same category as alcohol there.
In a regulated market deaths would be a rarity, as it stands it's mostly people polydrug using who get hurt.
Fucking media in this country I swear, we need proper regulation and education if we want to save lives.
you get that this wouldn't work as a critique if it was obvious you could make different choices right? Then it wouldn't make the player complicit. If you're not complicit it's just a game saying "military shooters could be different" which is a nothing statement.
Like how games with a "get the information (evil)" and "get the information (good)" button aren't offering real moral choices. Or how deus ex would lose all impact if the "here's a gun, go kill these people" starting mission tempting you with a rocket launcher popped up a "you might change sides in the future" warning.
By involving you, leading you just like any other military shooter for a bit then cutting you loose is what creates the critique. You compare notes after playing and someone points out something and you go "huh, why didn't I try that?". It's not condemning you for not trying that, it's asking you if you're happy with a genre which trains you to never to try it.
It's weird. I credit my scientific education with waking me up to questioning stuff. Like when you learn about how we know stuff, the limits of proof (e.g. can't prove empiricism is "true" it just works extremely well for certain things), how hard it is to wrangle stuff into scientific questions and so on the elephant in the room is how fucking impossible most questions are.
Then you get thinking about how untested most of society is, how many different ways there are to interpret things, how unknowable the "goodness" of your preferences is and so on.
Yet, in the same cohort as me there were a lot of people coming out extremely certain of their own worldview and blindly faithful in technocrats and the mystical power of throwing data at stuff to solve enormous problems. Like we are anywhere near being able to calculate out a human society.
So idk, I think it's less stem vs not stem and education quality and kinds of people/where they're at in life. You could probably go through a lit crit course and come out blinkered too, being able to do lit crit doesn't guarantee you'd have good opinions.
Military shooter games glorify war and shallowly reward horrible behaviour. Spec ops does it differently.
Majority of people: do horrible thing
Some people: experimental and find heroic thing is rewarded.
Discussion possible, why did the majority do that? could we talk about horrible and uncreative design patterns in the genre of military shooters? How media portrayals of war train us not to look for peaceful solutions? Whether this feeds into how we view American imperial wars?
you: no spec ops bad video game because I didn't do the good option.
I think you're actually engaging with it a bit shallowly. You are the one who invented the rule and a different framing is exploring how, if games seem to put us in situations where we must do horrible things to advance even a couple of times, we take that as a rule instead of risking losing to find other ways.
Which is a fairly glaring indictment of the whole military shooter genre which is all about "hard men and hard choices" that completely dehumanise the factions you're in opposition to.
When has ruining the world for everyone else ever stopped the usa before? :(
There really seems to be a lot of "If not us, nobody" in the command structure of that military cult empire.
You bookmark my profile, show up randomly to just say nice things to me like this so I feel less like I'm begging into a void (￣▽￣)ノ <3
For real though thanks for the kind words. Because controversy generates engagement saying anything against eating meat gets you inundated with replies, like 1 in 40 of which seem remotely good faith.