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Yes, but I’m asking what you think. There are a variety of opinions on it.

Hey, what happened when the wrong people started winning elections in Iraq when we set up democracy there?

“That’s TOTALLY DIFFERENT”

What if someone breaks in your house, or drives drunk? What should happen?

What is the solution? No cops at all? Police reform? What?

As I remember, it was just too much powder in the cartridge. I could be wrong though.

Do you see any scenario where the IDF can allow itself to truly stop Innocent people? A soldier is being fired at from a school, should the soldier allow himself to get killed in such situation?

The whole concept is bankrupt. An IDF soldier is being fired at from a school because he is on Palestinian land, occupying it by force to maintain the land that was stolen from the Palestinians and facilitate the taking of more.

There are degrees. If he’s sniping schoolchildren, then that will inflame the conflict more and promote more October 7ths. If he’s “only” firing back at the school, so “defending” himself… well, it’s “better” I guess, but if you break in my house in the middle of the night and I attack you, you’re not “defending” yourself even if you limit yourself to fighting with me and not hurting my wife.

And vice versa, considering what you know about setlers in Israel, do you really think that they will not get even more violent in the west bank if they know that their actions has no cost?

Their actions don’t seem to have a cost though. Or rather the mechanism of retribution is so indirect and random that I don’t think that Hamas’s counterattacks make all that much difference to their calculus of what they can get away with doing to the Palestinians. I could be wrong, but that’s my impression.

And don't get me wrong, I wish for Hamas to vanish, and I wish for the IDF to kill only militants (even that definition is not clear), just like you. But I don't see any realistic scenario (considering the human spirit) that this can happen. Not in the current political situation.

Like I said, even “killing only militants” leaves Israel in the position of the war criminal. They are invading and stealing homes, farms, anything they can find and pushing the Palestinians into a vanishingly small series of refuges which they then invade in turn. Why would “militants” not fight back in that scenario? What should they do instead?

I do agree with your take on how unrealistic peace is in the present climate. It needs to be imposed from outside by force in order to happen, which won’t happen, because the US would need to be actively involved in making that happen and the US likes things more or less as they are (or at least as they were before the counterattack after October 7th got so genocidal that it started causing political issues for leaders in the US).

I don’t know a single person who was in the military who has good things to say about it.

After training, sure, they’re all for it. After doing the job for real (combat or not) and getting out, not a single time that I can remember.

Not true. I already gave you some valuable feedback on your hustle. I can’t promise that you’ll make any more money if you implement my recommendations, but it will improve your job performance, if you take it on.

It’s okay though. I am happy to provide it for free.

What in your mind is a normal salary in an American business? Out of businesses in America, how typical do you imagine one would be that pays every single employee $400k per year? You seem to think these things you are claiming are pretty plausible, so I imagine you picture it as being pretty typical (or at least not comically outlandish), yes? Or no?

Fuckin serious up

Imagine to yourself what the Venezuelans should do about this, to safeguard their future. Let Maduro win and hope for the best? Peaceful protest? War? What should they do? Really think it through, with the comfortable objectivity of distance and safety.

And then, get fuckin ready. We got 3 more months. My best quick recommendation is, allies. Allies in the real world who are marching, working, voting, putting time in. Solidarity will help you resist, and if the resistance fails, they’ll help you survive.

Also: Vote. Are you registered? vote.org

Ha - I thought the exact same thing; I just edited my thing specifically to talk about McCain. Yeah, he was the last of the old guard; already out of step (telling that woman at his rally not to attack Obama as an enemy of America). But at least in his day you could be decent and run for president as a Republican. Now they’ll throw you out of congress for trying to be a normal human person as a Republican. Maybe next year it’ll be prison.

Dude, Reagan suffocated the soul of the GOP. And Nixon before him. Back in the Eisenhower days when the Democrats were the racist party, they had some solid things to stand for, but those people are in the ground at this point, and have been for a long, long time. McCain was arguably the last of his kind, back when you could be a decent person and still have some standing in the GOP, which is why they’ve now edited him out like Emmanuel Goldstein.

A lot of the Democrats are shit, too. But the thought leaders of the Democratic Party are, by and large, the relatively decent ones. We’ve reformed (somewhat) since Clinton. The Republicans have been digging down to new levels of hell with every new generation for roughly 50 years now, and Nixon was already psychotically bad.

Or that my business is setup as a coopt where everyone makes an equal portion, has equal equity, and equal input in the direction of the company?

Everyone in your business makes $400k per year?

How many employees do you have?

Dude you can’t walk it back from “I make $400k a year, taxes are my chief concern” to abolishing corporations and saying you’re a communist now

I can send you my cash app if you want to do some “from each according to his ability” tho

it doesn't matter if it's the red fascist or the blue fascists

Ah haaaaaa

All of a sudden your totally bizarre take on what is important makes sense

Carry on

For future reference, I think the “lowering taxes is a SUPER important goal” stuff should be separated from the “I am SO far left that I can’t tell the difference between literal Nazis and insufficiently progressive centrists” stuff. It’s incongruous in a very weird way, and taxes are just not an issue that will get a lot of traction on Lemmy. Focus on Gaza instead.

Dude they’re going to put me in prison for being a Democrat and shut down the elections in the future, they’re trying to deport all the Mexicans, everyone is fine with all of Palestine being exterminated (or close enough to “fine” not to stop it). The planet is dying, the oceans are boiling. A lot of places people used to live are literally killing the inhabitants now. All of Florida is so dangerous to housing that it’s functionally uninsurable.

So no, I don’t give a shit about my taxes, or yours. It’s also relevant that Biden / Harris have been making some attempt at income equality so that the rich will pay more than 0% tax and people will start to make more than 8 bucks an hour and rent will be less than half my income. But honestly, even those are sort of second tier concerns. As far as things I put genuine worry into, taxes don’t even come on the fucking radar, and if they do yours, I want your life.

It was because of the ammo. They tested later with more rounds from the same batch, and those ones also exploded.

Harris doesn't have shit for influence with Biden.

Yeah, that's fair I guess. US policy for the last four years is Biden policy; she's not gonna go out and say "actually I think we should be doing this other thing instead."

She was treated as the dumping ground for bad issues and never given any of their successes.

Well... I don't think a VP is really supposed to do a lot of leadership. Supposedly she was pretty involved in a lot of the behind-the-scenes discussions, and she got given some moderately important things (e.g. going to Central America to investigate the root causes of the surge in migration). What did she get blamed for / used as a dumping ground for if you want to call it that?

And the Uncommitted movement is all about making the Democrats better. There are plenty of people in it who want the Democrats to both win and simultaneously be better on Israel, and with Harris there's a chance to chart a new course.

Yeah. I hope so. I take some hope from the fact that she skipped Netanyahu's address and met with him separately from Biden. But again it's cold comfort if you're watching month by month as your family is getting chased around in the blasted wasteland and dying, one by one.

“All’s fair in love and war”

No it isn’t you fucking sociopath

Idk. Harris has been part of the ticket that’s been giving billions of dollars in weapons and letting Netanyahu spit in their faces when they ask him to ease off on the killing at least for a little while.

I used to be more opposed to things like the “uncommitted” vote than I am now. I do still think Trump will be way worse. But honestly, just seeing a still photo of Rashida Tlaib’s face at a Michigan event was enough to make me realize. They’ve got a right to be 0-tolerance furious and disgusted with all this “lesser evil” bullshit while their families are dying and watching their children suffer and starve, and the US government under Biden is bankrolling the whole operation. I don’t see how any Palestinian could speak at a DNC event right now without (a) selling out their home and their family in a laughably pathetic Uncle Tom fashion, or else (b) condemning the entire event from top to bottom, whatever the white people want to get up and say about how important a cease fire is.

How to tell someone's politics are bullshit:

1. Their big priority is taxes going down
2. They blame immigrants for things
3. They hate "regulation"

How do you feel about 2 and 3?