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mathemachristian[he] @ mathemachristian @lemm.ee
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  • 70% is fair think when theyre talking to me, but if theyre talking with eachother it drops dramatically lol.

    scottish english might be a good analogy. If they talk to someone who only knows plain english they will take that into account, but amongst eachother youd be lucky to get the general gist of the topic at hand.

  • That comes after very in-depth reading. What got me that far to even trust their judgement that this kind of research would be worth my time was the fact that they were consistently right about takes on the USSR that seemed ludicrous. Just that they seemed to really know their stuff about USSR history especially the Stalin era. So I started reading

    Michael Parenti - Blackshirts and Reds

    a rather short book about anticommunism in the west. I already had very left views but what stuck with me was that I required a revolution to be "perfect", the outcome sure and everyone had to be happy, an unrealistic standard considering the kind of fundamental change I envisioned. Or in Parenti's words:

    The pure socialists’ ideological anticipations remain untainted by existing practice. They do not explain how the manifold functions of a revolutionary society would be organized, how external attack and internal sabotage would be thwarted, how bureaucracy would be avoided, scarce resources allocated, policy differences settled, priorities set, and production and distribution conducted. Instead, they offer vague statements about how the workers themselves will directly own and control the means of production and will arrive at their own solutions through creative struggle. No surprise then that the pure socialists support every revolution except the ones that succeed.

    Once I had conceded my previous "anti-tankie" views and thought of the USSR not as a failed revolution that started of well-intentioned but was led astray by power hungry dictators, but as a successful revolution that had to endure a constant onslaught, physical as well as political, I was "through the looking glass" so to speak.

    Then the genocide in Gaza happened and I kind of looked at the countries we were allied with, who were consistently some of the worst offenders of human rights. The whole supporting violent dictatorships in former colonies wasn't news to me, but when put into perspective I had a "Damn we really are the baddies aren't we" moment.

    I realise that this doesn't answer your question on Ukraine and the Uighurs but that's because I don't have the time right now to get into a debate on that, and the original question was on what changed my mind about it which was less the actual research I then put into, but the heavy-lifting on even questioning the western narrative was done before that.

    To answer your question in a nutshell however: The reason the situation in Ukraine deteriorated this far, to the point that the ethnic russians in Ukraine had to even put up "self-defense" forces was meddling of western capitalist forces. The article that I keep referencing on that is ( CW for pictures of dead bodies and gruesome descriptions of fascist violence):

    https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/07/29/what-the-u-s-government-and-the-new-york-times-have-quietly-agreed-not-to-tell-you-about-ukraine/

    The open fascism in the paramilitary groups that later got put under the umbrella of the Ukrainian army was an open question mark for me, this article gives a very detailed answer to that. The details in that report post 2014 are corroborated in the UN reports as well:

    https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents-listing?field_geolocation_target_id%5B1136%5D=1136&field_content_category_target_id%5B180%5D=180&field_content_category_target_id%5B182%5D=182&field_entity_target_id%5B1349%5D=1349&field_entity_target_id%5B1350%5D=1350&sort_bef_combine=field_published_date_value_DESC

    As for the so-called "genocide" of Uighurs in China, the "evidence" is very very circumstantial especially considering the scale alleged. Millions of people are alleged to be held in internment at some point, a scale that should be visible from space. I mean manhattan has a population of 1.7 million, where are all these people interned?? As an example of one of the oddities about the whole allegations. The only countries that seem to care are outspoken anti-communist countries, with the whole muslim world not considering the crackdown on religious extremism in Xinjiang a genocide. All the articles I kept getting linked were "oh how terrible the situation there is, what an evil evil government" with no one seemingly caring about the actual people. It's all just treated as an abstract talking point. And the only references boiling down to two reports by Adrian Zenz

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02634937.2018.1507997

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02634937.2021.1946483

    a person with some questionable viewpoints

    https://books.google.de/books?id=lRtSQB3HHJcC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

    All the stuff around it seems to be pushed by Washington based anti-communist thinktanks trying to establish an "east turkestan". The whole movement is heavily US-financed. See here for more info:

    https://hexbear.net/post/2361

    That's what changed my mind about it all anyway, but like I said I probably will not be able to go into more depth about this, as I have spent too much time on this already.

  • The ussr and china were evil and nato were the good guys fighting for freedom.

    Boy was I wrong on that one. What changed my mind were the tankies on hexbear who consistently were the most knowledgable on a topic and kept being correct with (what I thought at the time) the most obviously incorrect takes.

  • How do you think this plays out? The republicans aren't going to run anyone better, so the dems only have to run someone who isn't openly as bad as their candidate since people like you will vote for them anyway. They are ineffective in stopping the christofascism, they are not a neutralization of that threat, the last 4 years have made that very clear.

    And they never will be unless you give them a reason to get to work. It will continue to get worse if you keep voting them in, it just does not work. They have to change but they wont unless there is a reason to.

  • Vote third party or dont vote unless the dems get their shit together. Thats the only thing that gets them to do anything. Failing that nothing will change, you can wring your hands and lament the current state of affairs, but the only thing that makes any material difference is in how you vote.

    The real solution of course is communist revolution, so get organizing with others in order to mitigate the effects of the current slide into fascism, but if you keep voting "blue no matter who" you have effectively given up on representative democracy.

  • But thats true about nutrition in general. A lot of people have deficiencies without being vegan, this stereotype that veganism is somehow dangerous unless you know what you're doing is just wrong. People need to be more educated about nutrition in general independently of veganism.

  • I believe we have reached the end of what can be said based on facts. If you think that genocide joe, despite his fervent zionism, despite his enthusiastic support for the ongoing ethnic cleansing in palestine, even finding ways around congress to support it, that he still is a reasonable candidate who would help the left in the US get to a position of power where they can enact meaningful change, even though you agree he isn't a progressive leftist that would do anything a leftist person would do, then I dont know what else I have to say.

    Have a nice slide into fascism while voting for harm reduction that never seems to come.