masquenox @ masquenox @lemmy.world

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Space lacks large groups of impoverished and repressed people whose labour you can exploit to make your mines profitable.

You’re the one who said that democracy was invented as a measure against fascism.

Prove it.

you specifically said fascism

No I did not, genius. What you call "fascism" is merely the specific form that hierarchical violence takes in the liberal nation state.

Is something beginning to gel here for you?

which was invented in the 20th century.

Oh, really? Why doesn't all the mass-murder perpetrated by the liberal order in the colonised world count as "fascism" to you, Clyde?

Where the victims not white enough for you?

ethno-nationalism, militarisation of the state, flexible suppression of opposition and centralised autocracy.

Oh. So... bog-standard hierarchical violence, then?

Just because you’re

Again. How the fuck do you liberals get through the day with all this foaming, nuclear-level incoherence bouncing around inside your heads?

Seriously - I’d STILL like to know.

Americans went for a second helping at the trough of fascism.

The US has been pro-fascist long, long before Mussolini gave it a name.

Americans are the most propagandized people on earth.

Yeah. The responses on here certainly seems to bear that out.

Democracy has existed far longer than fascism has…

And? Are you so utterly brain-addled as to believe that hierarchical violence was invented in the 20th century?

the earliest fascist movements weren’t until the 1910s,

Oh, right... for a minute there I almost forgot that liberals only call it "fascism" when the victims are white.

while the earliest recorded democracy was around 508 BC

So it was invented all that time ago, and you STILL don't have the foggiest idea what it actually is, eh?

That tracks, liberal.

My dear god, this is history fundamentals.

Again. How the fuck do you liberals get through the day with all this foaming, nuclear-level incoherence bouncing around inside your heads?

Seriously - I'd like to know.

Democracy isn’t a magic anti-fascist spell,

Yes it is, genius. THAT IS LITERALLY WHY IT WAS INVENTED.

If someone can convince enough of the population to elect them, then they get into power, fascist or not.

If power is conveniently centralized for a fascist to take control of, Clyde, IT MEANS YOU NEVER HAD A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY TO START OFF WITH.

By your definition, there really hasn’t been a blah, blah, blah....

How the fuck do you liberals get through the day with all this foaming, nuclear-level incoherence bouncing around inside your heads?

At least they learned from their mistake, unlike the US.

If Brazil had learned from it's mistake it WOULDN'T HAVE ALLOWED A FASCIST INTO POWER, genius.

Well, he did insist.

And now it isn’t, that’s democracy,

Abso-fucking-lutely not. Fascists would NEVER be able to gain power in a truly democratic society. No ifs, ands or butts.

Fascists are funded into power (and into existence) by CAPITALISTS - adherents to an ideology that is violently incompatible with anything that can be called democratic with a straight face.

Brazil is not a democratic society. It is a (so-called) "liberal democracy" - something that can be more accurately described as 95% capitalism with some fake democracy substitute thrown in as a legitimising measure.

That is THE WHOLE POINT of liberalism.

The opposite of liberal is authoritarian

I'm afraid not. Liberalism is about as "authoritarian" as it gets - or do you classify the ongoing genocide the (so-called) "liberal democracies" are sponsoring in Palestine as (somehow) "non-authoritarian?"

Sadly, “liberal” partys nowadays are mostly economically liberal (i.e. freedom for corporations, deregulation etc.)

That is what they have ALWAYS been.

I’m not from the US

That doesn't matter. Liberalism is a right-wing ideology - even in Antarctica, on Mars, or on the other side of the galaxy.

Brazil is a good world citizen.

Uhhh, did you forget that Brazil was being run by a fascist war criminal just a short while ago?

Your brother is being recruited by the fascists. That is what is going on.

liberal left

There is no such thing as a "liberal" left. Liberalism is a right-wing ideology - that's why they are constantly "reaching across the aisle" to their fascist brethren.

(Apart from that I do agree with your point, though.)

Fucking hell, I had to scroll all the way down here to find an answer that isn't complete garbage.

But “I came to grope and I ain’t leaving”

Pretty much US foreign policy, if you ask me.

Sure. Only problem is nobody would pay to see me naked.

Because torture is the one thing the US will never ban. Just like slavery.

The US military has a strong no first use policy

LOL!

You are immoral and degrading.