masquenox @ masquenox @lemmy.world

Just your average friendly neighbourhood radical.

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Same as punishment for crime.

"Crime & Punishment" is a very dodgy thing to base anything off... our society barely does any of it and the little of it that does gets done is done for a myriad of reasons that has very little to do with either.

There's a good reason why governments hide "Crime & Punishment" away behind prison walls - doing it out in the open will eventually have the opposite effect on a population. Good luck to an AI dumb enough to test this out for itself.

I'd say this should rather be called "Roko's Earthworm-Pretending-To-Be-A-Lot-Scarier-Than-It-Actually-Is.

I mean I guess I could use the Victoria 3

Is that one better than the cheap one CNN (and you) are using?

Fair enough.

Just because we don’t have the ability now doesn’t mean it’s not possible.

Yeah... no. It's about as likely as humanity "colonizing" space - it's not going to happen.

Consciousness isn’t fully understood,

True... and conflating consciousness with the trappings of digital technology is doing the exact opposite of getting us closer to any understanding of it.

Based cat doesn't take orders from fascists.

torture anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its advancement or development,

And the point of this would be... what, exactly?

The prospective AI punishment would be to have your consciousness ‘moved’ to an artificial environment and tortured for ever.

No, it wouldn't, because that's never going to happen. Consciousness isn't software - it doesn't matter how much people want to buy into such fantasies.

Should you be using terms if you don't actually know what they mean?

If we can recycle single use plastic into this, then great.

They won't - they'll just use "Recycling!" as a pretext to continue business as usual... which was the whole point of "Recycling!" in the first place.

TLDR - somebody writes a wall of text about "radicalization" without understanding what the term radicalization even means.

Tell me you don't know what the term radical means without telling me you don't know what the term radical means.

America has always rejected fanaticism

Right... the country that literally perfected white supremacism has "always rejected fanaticism" - I guess in your book rejecting white supremacism counts as fanaticism, then?

The capsacin is dissolved in an oil,

That only counts for OC gas (pepper spray) - most anti-dissent chemical weaponry doesn't contain capsaicin. Milk won't do shit for CS gas, for instance. For CS gas, water is the only thing that works.

Considering how many different types of this shit there actually is and the fact that they can mix them up pretty easily regardless of what the law actually says makes a one-size-fits-all solution pretty difficult.

edit: did I just say a one-size-fits-all solution to this is difficult? Silly me.

I have to admit that GIMP has me beat - I've taught myself plenty of progs (usually in a panic because I told the interviewer I could use it and therefore had to learn it real fast - that's how I learned Illustrator, CorelDRAW and QuarkXpress), but I just can't seem to get the hang of GIMP.

It's just standard corporatese - if it's not insulting your intelligence they're not doing it right.

What's NSFW about this?

Nor did I ever mention NASA nor make a judgment on which group was morally superior.

Oh, you didn't have to - you just stepped in to help on of your fellow libs do a bog-standard and thinly-veiled "Jewish-Bolshevism" jig - that is all.

Aaaaaand...

It’s not terribly surprising that both NASA and the USSR space program did awful things to animals.

...the backpedalling begins.

Not very unpredictable, methinks.

And rushed it so bad they didn’t have fundamental tech that was applicable to a wider economy

I hate to break it to you, Clyde - but the central technologies developed by the space race was "applicable to a wider economy" on both sides of the Cold War. The USSR had weather and communications satellites, too - unless you want to argue that those served no economic purpose to the USSR, perhaps?. Perhaps you are a bit too dazzled by all the anciliary stuff that dominates your consumerist fantasies? I'm sure you believe NASA's handheld vacuum cleaners made capitalism better for all the people that didn't get to live the middle-class WASP dream thanks to the New Deal... but it really didn't.

Handing off publicly-funded research and development to be used as a means of private profiteering for the capitalist class at the expense of everyone else (including you) is simply the way the US has always done technology - pretending that the USSR not doing the same is somehow a "flaw" is peak neoliberalism.

Their space program was callous towards both human and animal life.

I guess it's a good thing that NASA wasn't very forthcoming with their animal experimentation, eh? I wonder if the outcry would have been the same?

Yeah... sounds like Tuesday to me.

Khrushchev also ordered Leonid Brezhnev to head an investigation commission and go to the site.[11] Among other things, the commission found that many more people were present on the launch pad than should have been—most were supposed to be safely offsite in bunkers.

When Brezhnev arrived at the firing range on 25 October 1960, he said: "Comrades! We do not intend to put anyone on trial; we are going to investigate the causes and take actions to recover from the disaster and continue operations"

Afterwards, when Nikita Khrushchev asked Yangel, "But why have you remained alive?", Yangel answered in a trembling voice, "Walked away for a smoke. It's all my fault". Yangel later suffered a heart attack and was off work for months.

After all... we can't pretend thay the "Jewish-Bolshevist horde" would actually value human life now, can we? What would Reagan say?

Nah, I like my version better.

Yeah, you do, because you're an edgy liberal self-applying the term "socialist" without understanding what it means because you desperately want to distance yourself from your capitalist and fascist brethren while still buying into the same beliefs they hold on to.

It’s well known that horrible things happened to animals during the Russian space program.

Yes... "everybody" knows that the "Jewish-Bolshevist horde" couldn't possibly have an ounce of human compassion for animals, isn't it?

But hold on there before you start calling for another go at "lebensraum," Clyde - let's first check who it is that you are actually comparing them to, shall we?

You sound like a liberal

Stop projecting, liberal - I'm not the one jerking off Cold War propaganda here. You are.

but they were bad at building fundamental tech.

Yeah, they were so bad at it that they ended up in space first. Just absolutely terrible.

Their space program was callous towards both human and animal life.

Show us your proof, PragerU fan.

It wasn’t built in a way where successes could be leveraged for more successes.

So the Soviet Union launching Sputnik had absolutely nothing to do with them successfully landing Venera 7 on the surface of Venus?

Absolutely nothing at all, eh?

Strange how your right-wing friends at the RAND corporation didn't share your Ben Shapiro-level shittakes about the Soviet space program.

capitalism was able use space technology to improve the lives of the working class capitalist parasites better than a supposedly communist system did.

FTFY.

Also, learn what the word "irony" means.