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Same old US.

This is the reason France and Germany banned pro-Palestinian gatherings - the old propaganda narratives aren't working as well as it used to.

and care for its citizens,

If the Israeli government cared about the people it (supposedly) represents it wouldn't be turning them into violent colonialist goons to do the west's bidding in the middle-east, would it?

You might just as well ask how to fix the Apartheid-regime without upsetting white people or fix the Nazi regime without discomforting Nazis.

The conflict is extremely complicated.

It really isn't. It's just pro-Israeli propaganda pretending it's complicated.

This attack will energize the populations of a lot of middle-eastern regimes that have been playing footsie with Israel over the last few decades - so yeah... both in the long and short term things are looking shaky for Israel. Would it lead to WW3? Unlikely... even if Israel's geopolitical reach and importance is curbed by this, the US already has another thug regime in the area that can do it's dirty work for it - Saudi Arabia.

Israel doesn’t trust Hamas.

Then maybe Israel shouldn't have funded them.

The blockade, which, mind you, is also enforced by Egypt

The US-backed dictatorship in Egypt is doing the US's bidding? You don't say...

Any civilian casualties are to be condemned.

Israel hasn't made much distinction between combatants and non-combatants since 1949 - can't blame Hamas for playing by Israel's rules.

Yet, you must remember that Hamas likes to base itself under hospitals, schools, mosques.

Right, because there are vast tracts of unused real estate in one of the most densely populated areas on the planet, eh?

If that is not surgical, I don’t know what is.

There is no such thng as a "surgical" artillery shell, Clyde. And as for the claim itself... the IDF is no more trustworthy than the Apartheid security forces were.

Fuck Israel.

It was then the Romans and the Muslims that did the oppression and genocide.

When did the Muslim-world commit genocide against Jewish people? The medieval Muslim-world was a safe haven for Jewish communities - as opposed to Christendom... you know - the place where antisemitism originates from?

Your abolishment of boundaries and countries is also a very simplistic world view.

I'd say that fetishizing lines drawn on a map is a pretty simplistic thing in itself.

Without government, you can’t stop the strong from obliterating the weak.

So your solution is to allow the strong a government so that they can obliterate the weak even more easily?

TIL there's a disturbing amount of USians who think Iran is actually Atlantis.

Well, let's face it... the "western world" is listening - and it likes what it is hearing. Just like the "western world" liked what it was hearing when Hitler and the Nazis explicitly stated what they were planning to do in the run-up to WW2.

2000 years of racism, forced displacement and oppression, capped off with one of the most horrific genocides in the history of the world.

And who is responsible for that, eh? The same "western civilization" that is now using Israel as a kapo state to do it's dirty work in the middle-east, perhaps?

The Netherlands had better watch out... my ancestors came from there about 300 years ago, and that automatically gives me the right to rape, torture and murder my way through Antwerp!

Can we acknowledge that it’s one of the most complicated geopolitical circumstances in the history of the world?

No, we can't... because it's not. It's only "complicated" due to pro-Israeli propaganda and nothing else - it's no more "complicated" than Apartheid South Africa was.

Why should the people in the Middle East suffer because of what nazi Germany did?

It's not just the Nazis - it's the entire west.

You just tried to say that Israel’s supporters are antisemitic?

No. I never tried to say it.

I just plain said it - the countries that enable Israel is as antisemitic and white supremacist as they have always been. They've been hiding it since WW2 - but, as the resurgence of mask-off far-right ideology in the US and Europe proves, it's still the same old west.

The west's support for Israel has always been antisemitic - dumping European Jewish people in Palestine was literally one the Nazi's potential solutions to the "Jewish Question". It's no secret - just mundane history that westerners doesn't like talking about.

Christian Zionism predates Jewish Zionism - the whole reason these white supremacist and antisemitic societies fantasized about a modern-day "Israel" was simply because they did not believe Jewish people belonged in their precious "white" societies.

You don't have to think about it for very long to see it for yourself - who were the people that made it so difficult for Jewish people to "belong" in western societies? If the US was so friendly and welcoming to Jewish people as the US wants to pretend it is (prominent Jewish people like Steven Spielberg and Noam Chomsky will happily tell you about US-style antisemitism), why would Jewish people need a "homeland" in the middle-east?

The only way Israel will ever stop the genocide is by ceasing to exist. If you don't understand that you don't understand what Israel is.

It's never just been the US - Israel doesn't just have a whole bunch of enablers... said enablers also back the very idea of a modern-day Israel.

France, the UK, Germany, Australia, Apartheid-era South Africa all played their part in helping with all this - I guess the fact that it's all countries with histories that are deeply entwined with white supremacism, antisemitism and colonialism is purely coincidence, eh?

Crikey... did you see this one?

I mean... what else would you expect from a white supremacist colonial project?

Israel is a US client state - and it's obvious to the US that Israel is not as capable of dealing with the situation as they had hoped.

Wouldn’t a one state be a better solution.

Pretty much, yes. It's only an unpopular opinion amongst white supremacists and pro-colonialists.