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Yeah, hold on... let me compare the costs of enriching a billionaire parasite piggybacking off publicly-funded programs that developed all the technology said billionaire parasite is piggybacking off with said publicly-funded programs.

No, Clyde, it was cheaper - because we actually got results other than merely enriching a billionaire parasite.

Your brain has been so addled with "free market" fairy tales that you might just as well believe a glass slipper will magically turn you into royalty. There is absolutely nothing parasites like Musk can do that we couldn't do far, far better, much more efficiently and far cheaper through public means - and that's it.

So why don't we see atheists burning Bibles?

No, the entire space exploration attempt was much cheaper half a century ago - neither the US nor Soviet space programs wasted labor or resources enriching billionaire parasites. There is absolutely nothing that can be performed by parasites such as Musk or Bezos that cannot be done far better, more efficiently and more effectively through public means.

There is no common ground on these definitions.

Yes, they've spent trillions on propaganda machines to make sure no clear meaning can be ascribed to rather simple political concepts. That doesn't stop us from discovering their actual meanings at all.

We both know that different people use these terms differently.

Yes. See above.

The German political education ministry for example defines extremism

Sooo... power will attempt to "define" political concepts in a way that protects itself?

On the other hand, the ADL defines extremism as any belief outside of the mainstream

So, again... power will attempt to "define" political concepts in a way that protects itself?

Meanwhile, the British government considers extremism to be anything opposed to “British values”,

And... more of the same?

fact is that they do not have clear definitions

That's because "definitions" are utterly useless. What isn't useless is the meaning without which these political concepts cease to serve any purpose - and no amount of "muddying the water" will be able to rob them of that.

Okay.

Oh look, a person that cannot distinguish politics from vehicular activity. I wonder how you manage to drive anywhere without ever turning left.

I've always wondered... do they tailor your Klan robes, or are they just one-size fits all?

In other words... a brain dead fascist.

Both words, “extremist” and “right-wing”, have no real hard definitions.

No, right-wing ideology has a very hard and clear-cut definition - all politics that protects power and privilege. It really doesn't get any simpler than that.

Is being socially conservative right wing?

It's not supposed to be... but the only people self-applying the term in the US are fascists.

Is supporting capitalism right wing?

Yes. Period.

anti-racist and pro-trans left wing?

That's not progressive - that's radicalism.

Is socialism left wing? Is only communism left wing?

Yes.

Is someone an extremist if they condone violence?

No.

Is someone an extremist if they seek to change the system fundamentally?

No, that's radicalism.

Is someone an extremist if their political beliefs are very strongly held, no matter what they might be?

No.

He looked pretty extremist to me when he helped the Bush regime lie their way into Iraq. And the guy literally chose a pig to be his running mate.

Doesn't get more extreme than that - him pretending to be "nicer" than the more overt right-wingers doesn't change that.

Oh look... an "enlightened centrist" has shown up to run interference for the right-wingers.

There is such a thing as a "non-extremist" right-winger?

I already see people like Bill Gates and Elon Musk as shameful failures of humanity.

Yeah... that's not how accelerationsim works. Accelerationsim would require our active participation in order to make things worse... but we don't actually have the power to do so.

I have no idea what you are talking about because Lemmy, now all of a sudden, is refusing to show me context.

Whenever I hear someone unironically use the term "disrupted" I just know I'm going to be hearing some capitalist parasite being glorified for doing something expensive that a government did much cheaper half a century ago.

At least the new arrivals will have a fresh supply of meat - Mars is pretty cold, after all.

Never collaborate with occupiers. Lots of people in Afghanistan learned that the hard way, too.

Musk is doing more to make people realize how garbage capitalism is than Marx ever could.

i can’t imagine anything worse in the world

I can... there are literally people who are willing to participate in Musk's Mars colonization fantasies. They stand about as much chance of success (or survival) as those people who got imploded in that Titanic sub - except their deaths won't be as quick and merciful.