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  • Oh, you don't have to guess.. I'll tell you straight up that I won't bother retreading well-known propaganda created by tankies.

    I'm already perfectly familiar with it - I just called it something a bit more honest... as in capitalism with Chinese characteristics.

  • Part of it yes, it is a mixed economy.

    So the answer is no.

    Which means... drumroll... no socialism involved whatsoever.

    State-owned corporations

    Soooo... no socialism?

    all in all within capitalism.

    Soooo... still no socialism?

    just plain socialism

    There is no such thing as "plain socialism" - there is socialism and then there is not-socialism.

  • Social democracy = nationalism + capitalism. Ie... zero socialism involved in any way whatsoever. There is no such thing as a liberal that will accept the working class taking control of the means of production - on the contrary, liberals would rather ally themselves to fascists than allow socialism to take hold.

  • But it already is, isn't it?

    So if this...

    nobody’s main defining characteristic should be their gender.

    ...is what you really want you need to start with cis people and not transgender ones, correct?

  • Yeah, I completely thought up "capitalism with Chinese characteristics" on my own and totally didn't just replace one word of a thought-terminating mantra invented by (supposedly) "big, scary rational" tankies at all.

    You got me, tankie - it's all pure originality on my part.

  • Here's the problem with your argument.

    after being raised within some kind of faith

    If you had this stuff shoved down your throat as a kid, it's still there - no matter what you choose to believe in your adult life. It's very easy to decide what you believe when you're relaxing on your sofa... but that might not matter when you undergo events that are psychologically traumatic. It's called a regressive state - a term I actually picked up reading the torture manuals the CIA used to train it's death squads in Latin America. There's a very good reason you have people from these "prosperity gospel" scams hanging around drug rehab centers and mental asylums - it's just so much easier getting their claws into people when they've undergone such traumas and are vulnerable. I've lived long enough to have experienced it myself and watched others experience it - it's not pretty. It's scary, because it implies that we are not as much in control of our own psyches as we'd like to think we are, and that's perfectly understandable.

  • But killing every Nazi wouldn’t have killed the ideology.

    No... to kill the ideology (of which nazism was merely one expression), you have to dismantle the thing nazism (and other right-wing ideologies) served.

    Right-wing ideology exists for one reason and one reason only - to protect the power and privilege of elite establishments. You have to kill that which it serves.