masquenox @ masquenox @lemmy.ml

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Aaaand... still no coherence?

So still a no?

I'll take that as a no?

Still 4chan speak, tankie - do you have anything coherent?

Still not getting your 4chan speak, tankie.

I'm not describing your incoherence to you... that would make both of us incoherent.

It’s not my country.

Yep... it's always "our country" this and "our country" that when they need you to play cannon fodder - and when it's all over, it just goes straight back to being their country. No different than rich people telling us how we're "all in this together" during COVID.

Elon Musk - the whole reason he skipped South Africa right before his 18th birthday was to avoid being conscripted into the SADF. That's the actual reason - him and his family had no problem profiting off Apartheid until it was his turn to actually doing the dirty work of maintaining it. It's what a lot of rich white kids in SA did.

It’s about ensuring that the children of the wealthy and powerful would die alongside the children of the poor in any conflict.

Bullcrap. The children of the wealthy and powerful always get to have have convenient loopholes to get out of conscription - just look at Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

like building projects and disaster preparedness and relief.

Or, you know... have groups of trained civilians around to repress anything that threatens the precious status quo.

For the most part wars are better fought by paid professionals.

That only goes for dirty wars that you have no good reason to fight.

It has much to recommend it. It creates a shared experience in otherwise fragmented societies, breaking down barriers of class, race and gender.

The US would like to disagree.

It can be used to instil the values of a country in its population.

In other words... nationalist brainwashing.

And it subjects a pampered population

Only a boomer could think this.

Is incoherence, like, the fashionable thing amongst tankies these days?

Yep. US foreign policy has been helping Islamo-fascism on for a long, long time now. Coups, invasions, funding, training... you name it, the US has done it.

The Taliban only exists because of all the arms supplies the US gave these extremists during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.

Oh... more 4chan speak. Do you have anything else, tankie?

I'm not ignoring you, tankie - just your 4chan speak.

Yeah... your little 4chan picture language is becoming boring - so I'm just going to ignore it, okay?

Yeah... your little 4chan picture language is becoming boring - so I'm just going to ignore it, okay?

"Welfare" is not socialist. It's something states implemented to prevent socialist ideas from gaining ground - that's how they ended up with the (so-called) "Scandinavian model." Like every other country in the west, it was an anti-socialist measure used to prevent working class revolt - unlike actual socialism, it does not dismantle power and privilege but actively protects it.

Social justice isn't even something that was implemented - power and privilege simply pretends to implement it.

No thanks, tankie... I still don't want to interact with your "fellow travellers" over on stormfront.

No thanks... I don't want to meet your cousins.

The whole point of social democracy is to borrow concepts and values from socialism

The nazis borrowed the word "socialist," too - and it doesn't make the nazis any more socialist than social democracy. And just like the nazis, social democracy borrows nothing from socialism except the word "social."

Socialism only has one value and one concept - the workers control the means of production. You can't "borrow" this concept because it's already free for anyone to take. If you don't take it, it means you don't have anything that can be called socialism with a straight face.