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We can keep quoting the whole article.

Is relation to the hospital explosion:

“U.S. President Joe Biden said he had “no confidence” in the accuracy of the ministry’s reporting. However, the U.S. government’s annual human rights assessments from the region frequently cite the Gaza ministry.

Gaza’s Health Ministry stands by the 471 figure and includes it in the total death toll. When asked about conflicting accounts, authorities emphasize the difficulties of their work and vigorously deny any fabrication”

My takeaway is, they have been accurate historically and are used internationally, but they should be verified, especially after recent events.

I was addressing the previous statement saying the ministry was not a part of Hamas when their own article clearly states -an agency in the Hamas-controlled government-

The article also said that their data was wrong in a story everyone remembers a week ago with the hospital.

Obviously a lot of people are being killed, I am not saying they aren’t. But accurate sources are important.

Sorry, that was rude of me to say.

I mean people that would use that data/story to make Israel look like the aggressor and Palestine the victim, when it is not that black & white.

I don’t want kids on any side to die, but using kids as a shield to hide behind is really shitty. So while i want kids to be safe, my anger is directed at Hamas for using them. Not Israel for fighting a group that massacred it’s people 3 weeks ago.

Nope, the hostages are from all over the world because Hamas targeted civilians at a music festival.

Unlike IDF who are targeting war assets that are conveniently located beneath schools, mosques, hospitals, and apartments.

Which is why i dont trust Gaza data. They want civilians to die to spread propaganda against Israel so people like you can have talking points.

Quotes from the article-

“Yet the Gaza-based Ministry of Health — an agency in the Hamas-controlled government continues to tally casualty numbers….

In previous wars, the ministry's counts have held up to U.N. scrutiny, independent investigations and even Israel's tallies.

But an outlier is the ministry’s death toll from an explosion at al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City last week.”

So while they have been trustworthy im the past, i still would prefer some third-party oversight after that hospital story. They threw their credibility and caught a bunch of news orgs with their pants down for trusting them.

I mean, that street goes 2 ways. Hamas could also release the hostages and surrender. That would also end the bombardment and let in people to take a tally.

Also shady that the number dead in Gaza comes from “The Ministry of Health in Gaza” aka Hamas controlled data.

Why should we trust a Ministry of Health in Gaza? Are they not a part of Hamas?

Edit: they even say later: “Save the Children is an independent, impartial organisation. With the ongoing complete siege of Gaza, journalists and international organisations are not able to get access to Gaza to verify independently and provide updated data on the impact of ongoing bombardment on the civilian population.”

Ok, but that is a whole plate of vein-in shrimp on decorative kale.

You do you Marie, but damn. There’s gotta be a better way.