Lysol @ lysol @lemmy.world

Metal fan with a concern for the environment and a passion for radiology.

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Send them Gripen as well.

More like the whole world. Damn, this is getting really scary.

You have a good point here, didn't even think about that at first. It's of course always about the money...

Why are you saying this? Do you believe pro-ukranians are on Zelensky's side rather than the Ukrainian people's side?

True. To say that Russia is winning/Ukraine is losing is total bullshit, but with that said, it is still really unwise to underestimate Russia.

Jets can be used to shoot down missiles. They can also be used to win a war.

Send them jets already. Jas Gripen, come on Sweden.

"Came across"? Right. Then I could say bringing up an unrelated conflict, no matter how terrible, in a discussion about what Russia does comes across as a putinist move.

This thread is about Russia. I was not the one bringing Israel up.

But no, I don't think that is a good thing. But it has nothing to do with Israel being "more evil" than Russia. Russia cares zero about civilians and would have killed at least as many had Ukraine been a mostly urban warzone with Russian air superiority. But Ukraine isn't, so therefore less civilian deaths.

Again, one can absolutely discuss the methods of the IDF. The point here is simply that you can't compare Gaza with Ukraine when it comes to civilian casualties.

This is not the point. The point is that comparing civilian casualties between a war in Gaza and a war in Ukraine is an apples and pears comparison.

This exactly. One can absolutely debate the methods of IDF, but literally no one could wage war in Gaza with few civilian casualties. Gaza is almost one huge city while Ukraine have massive rural areas around every city. Had Russia waged war in Gaza, they'd have killed at least as many civilians, and in my opinion probably a lot more as well.

You see, any normal country would have realized the war became way too costly and capitulated. But Russia is not a normal country.

Saying "Russia is losing" a year ago was not propaganda. It was just a lack of understanding how little Putin cares about the life of his soldiers. We now know he'll just keep sending more no matter what. He literally can't lose this war and continue to be president.

Oh, Trump, yeah the guy that think Russia is the 'lesser-evil'.

I wonder who will win!?

Exactly. I don't think people realize that, although it sounds like Ukraine gets a shitload of money, it's still probably pennies compared to the cost of being in an actual war.

Poor choice of words by me, but it was exactly my point. Of course they are fighting for themselves, but the US giving Ukraine weapons is the US fighting Russia without risking any of their own troops. It couldn't get cheaper than this to fight Russia.

You realize how expensive it would have been if the US would have fought a war against Russia themselves? Right now, Ukraine is defeating one of the top enemies of the US for the US.

Source? Because from what I've learned, they've studied aspartame so much now it's almost silly, and it has never been proven to be "worse than sugar". Though the sugar industry is really happy you believe otherwise.

This, yes. And at the same time they try to convince everyone else that climate change does not exist.