Lvxferre [he/him] @ lvxferre @mander.xyz

The catarrhine who invented a perpetual motion machine, by dreaming at nigh

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I hate when people use my shoulder as support, as I'm showing them something. Simply... don't, okay?

At least when in family I drink straight from the bowl. With the spoon (sometimes chopsticks) being only for the solid bits.

A 5y ban is a permaban under another name. By then the user already disengaged the community, or circumvented the ban.

I used to moderate a forum some years ago, with incremental bans. It was warning, warning, 1d, 3d, 7d, 15d, 1m, permaban.

It does not work well. For good users the system is irrelevant, they drop the behaviour after a single warning; shitty users keep the same behaviour even after the short bans are over, and then evade the larger bans, so you're basically taking multiple mod actions for what could be handled with a single one.

Eventually the forum shifted into a "three warnings and you're permabanned" system, but by then I wasn't a mod there any more so I don't know how well it worked.

No. But I think that it's often poorly used.

Most users are reasonable and should be treated as such by default; a simple warning goes a long way. Sometimes an overall good user is being really shitty so you ban them for, like, a week? Just to let them chill their head.

Permaban is for the exceptions. It's for users who cannot be reasoned with, will likely behave in a shitty way in the future, and have a negative impact on the community.

My concerns about the "immigration leftover" is not their opposing views, but their behaviour. I don't want to deal with the "waaah the world revolves around my belly, why are you too stupid to understand that?" crowds and their incessant whining.

The drop is slowing down considerably:

And given that March was a peak, I'm tempted to interpret it as newbies not sticking around. I think that it'll plateau around 40k users, then provided that the conditions remain the same it won't increase or decrease.

That's why I say that it's stable - the core userbase will likely stick around.

That said, these numbers may particularly be bad, e.g. if anyone left Lemmy and went to Mbin and/or PieFed, then I think they would not be counted in those charts?

They wouldn't be counted but I don't think that this introduces a lot of inaccuracy. Mbin has 1.7k MAUs, and PieFed has 104.

The number of instances dropping is far more concerning IMO. It means that smaller instances have a hard time becoming sustainable.

I'm still bitter about the SSP/SMP merge. 1.2.5 runs so good.

Petition to keep Chile in place because I need my semi-cheap booze and if they're moved as a bridge between Spain and Canada I'll need to pay more for that booze.

I agree with you that both things have their upsides; and frankly, I don't even think that we should be pandering to the immigration leftover wallowing in Reddit. Growth is good, but growth should never come at the expense of the community that you're trying to grow.

However I feel like those points help to explain why the "lol lmao" crowds hate this place.

Besides other factors mentioned in this thread, there's also

• selection bias: people with a positive view of Lemmy already migrated, so the leftover is bound to have more negative views
• older userbase: older people use language in a different way, talk about different topics, and dig into those topics in a different way. That often makes younger people throw a tantrum.
• group identity: for those "AS A SNOO" we're basically apostates.
• edit: personal drama between higher ups is more visible here than in Reddit.

Easier: n(13-n).

In this context "politics" clearly conveys "things directly related to governments, such as wars, elections, or socio-economical ideologies". It is only a subset of the definition of politics that you're probably using, something like "things direct or indirectly related to human groups and their conflicts of interest".

We got a whole Lemmy to talk about Israel vs. Hamas, late stage capitalism, elections etc. We could - and should - have at least one community to chill and talk about other stuff, and without that rule we won't have it. For example without that rule 99.99999% of the content as of late 2024 would be about Trump, as if Americans didn't have multiple communities to talk about it already.

The userbase is small but stable.

I agree that Reddit will become irrelevant to internet power users. However, I disagree that it takes a massive fuckup to lose the critical mass of users.

A simple way to explain this is to imagine that everyone has an individual "I'm pissed and I leave" threshold; if a platform displeases a user more than that threshold, they leave.

For power users, this threshold is really low, so they ditch platforms like Reddit faster. However, that does not mean that the others aren't getting displeased - they do; it might not be enough to convince them to leave, but it quickly piles up with other things displeasing them.

As such, even a large platform can lose that critical mass of users over time, even without a massive fuckup. It's just about small things piling up.

Another thing to consider is that power users are more important to a platform than the rest of the userbase, because the power users interact with the platform more. And they're typically the ones doing janny crap, or finding and sharing content, or that actually have anything meaningful to add instead of "lol lmao". So once the power users leave, the platform becomes less desirable for the others too, and that's recursive - as the power users leave, the almost-power users leave too, then the ones after them, so goes on. And there the critical mass goes down the drain.

My guess: there won't be a specific date that you can poinpoint and say "Reddit died here". It'll be a slow decline, with small outbursts of re-engagement. Something like this:

Profit will follow a similar pattern, as both things are intertwined.

Ginger with turmeric? Now that's something I need to try. Thanks for the rec!

Ginger. But only because I refuse to call yerba mate "tea".

I wish that it was darin (darling). It rolls off the tongue so much better.

I don't think that handedness plays a huge role. I think that in some cases it's simply random, and in other cases it's "we write in this direction because that's how we learned it".

Inkwriting exists since at least the 2500 BCE, it was already used with hieroglyphs, and yet you see those being written left to right, right to left, boustrophedon, it's a mess. Even with the Greek alphabet, people only stopped using boustrophedon so much around 300 BCE or so.

Plus if it played a role we'd see the opposite of what we see today - since the Arabic abjad clearly evolved among people who wrote with ink, that's why it's so cursive. In the meantime the favourite customary writing medium for Latin was wax tablets, where smudging ink is no issue: