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Oh "great", more crap between Ctrl and Alt.

[Grumpy grandpa] In my times, the space row only had five keys! And we did more than those youngsters do with eight, now nine keys!

Thankfully we agree. That only reinforces that he is indeed a witch. I'll grab my pitchfork too!

(in the meantime nobody pays attention to my username being literally "lucifer" with a broken grammar.)

You're really, really craving for attention, aren't you?

...usually I don't bother with this idiotic "I dun unrurstand lol lmao XD haha" conveying "I expect you to waste your time explaining obvious shit over and over while I pretend to not understand what you say". But since I'm in a really good mood, just this once I'll bite. I don't think that you're able to follow either, but other users will and I think that this is a good example of the problem with witch hunters.

"But gassing vermin!!11 Infestation! lol" - then find some elements prompting the player to conflate the vermin with Jewish people, or any other victim of the Holocaust. Things like this:

• Is the player's avatar dressed in a way reminiscent of the Schutzstaffel? No. Compare this with this.
• Are the rooms recognisably similar to gas chambers used in the Holocaust? No. (inb4 "bUt BoTh ArE CrEePy LoL" is grasping at straws)
• Does the vermin in question resemble a caricature Jewish person? No; it's Mickey Bloody Mouse dammit. And from other screenshots you have a moth and some tumour thing too.
• Posters painting fascist slogans, symbols, or discourses in a positive light? So far I saw none.
• et cetera.

Do it. Find those elements. Or elements that are similar in spirit. The burden of the proof is in the one claiming the connection, in this case you.

Without those elements, gassing vermin is simply gassing vermin, and the one creating the association between vermin and Jewish people is you, not the devs.

"88 gives it context" - nope. You need to link them. If they were showing that 88 with fireworks right after you got rid of a rat, then perhaps it would give you the context to interpret that rat as a Jewish person.

Also worth repeating that this association is undesirable for the developers, as shown by the fact that they changed the name of the game to "Infestation: Origins". But hey, this contradicts your assumption, and it prevents you from rolling in certainty like a pig would roll in filth, so it gets "conveniently" (dishonestly) ignored, right?

The above is already enough to address your idiotic point. But I'll go further, because I'm predicting that you're going to grasp at straws.

"But the Discord..." - they already paused discussions there until they get better moderation; that shows that they do not condone whatever was happening there. (They probably got some nazi with the same sort of reading comprehension as you [zero] assuming that he was in good company.)

"But all those pieces of evidence in Twitter! So many things, it must be a sure sign!" The "evidence" being shared there is ridiculous:

counting the space "Infestation 88" is 14 keystrokes.

This is numerology tier idiocy.

[associating TG·44 SST with STG 44, one of the assault rifles used by the Nazi in the war]

Yeah, sure - pick anything written, shuffle it enough, omit some characters, be very accepting on what you're matching it with, and you'll get whatever you want out of it.

And, rewatching the trailer, the found footage section is October 13, 1988 // Meaning the date would end in 13/88, which is SUSPICIOUSLY close, especially if you would be playing AFTER this point.

Not only "13 is close to 14, this must be a sign of an enemy Stand!" is already a silly stretch on its own, but the date being displayed in the picture doesn't even follow that idiotic M/D/Y order. It's displayed in Y/M/D (1988 Oct, 13). Good motherfucking luck associating 88/10/13 with 14/88.

"1-4 players, in 88, taking on an "outbreak of vermin in various locations"."

This was as a reply to a screenshot showing In the year 1988, what was thought to be an outbreak of vermin in varioues locations morphed into something far more sinister. Infestation 88 is an episodic, 1-4 player co- [cut off]

...do I really need to highlight how fucking stupid this is? 1-4 players is fairly common in games, and the text in the screeshot does no effort to align that "1-4" in a way that you'd read "1-4 88". The one doing it is actually Fagundes himself.

Theyve [SIC] been creating horror games since 2010. But at the bottom, copyright 2024. // 14 year difference.

More numerology tier crap.

Yup. There is a REASON to use THIS public domain character, and it ain't a good one.

As a reply to "Let's also not forget Disney himself was an anti-Semite."

If the devs are supposed to be anti-Semite, then why the hell would they represent the brainfart of an anti-Semite as the enemy???

Thank you! It's working now.

It's giving me an error, "Error Finding Entity // Make sure you spelled the entity correctly and that it exists!", when I use my username for lemmy.ml; curiously it works well when I do it for my beehaw.org account.

Create your account through old.reddit.com; when it asks you for an email, simply press "next". And, if you need an e-mail provider for some other reason, protonmail.com doesn't ask you for your phone number.

That said do you really need a reddit account?

[Note: this is my personal take, not Chomsky's]

We can recognise colours and things even without properly labelling them. (Colour example: I have no clue on how to call the colour of my cat's fur, but I'm fairly certain to remember thus recognise it.) However, it's hard to handle them logically this way.

• if you are outside and it is raining, then you get wet
• if you get wet, you might get sick
• so if you are outside and it is raining, you might get sick

And at least for me this is the main role of the internal monologue. It isn't just about repeating the state of the things, it's about connecting pieces of info together, as if I was explaining the link to another person.

Perhaps those without verbal internal monologue/dialogue have a more persistent innate language, that is not overwritten by common external language?

Possible; I don't know, really. It's also possible that the "innate language" doesn't really exist, only the innate ability to learn a language; but that ability is already enough to structure simple reasoning.

He's clearly a witch. I'm going to denounce him. Right now.

• "avater" has six letters. "lemmy" and "world" have five each, suspiciously close to six. His username is almost a literal 666.
• "I had an 88 in my old email address back in the days cause you know I’m born 1988" has the exact letters, in the right order, that allow you to spell "heil [name of the devil]".
• He wrote the number "8" four times. Eight symbolises new beginnings, regeneration, and resurrection; he's signalising to be full converted to satanism.
• He's German. You know how Germany is known as? Birthplace of Protestantism, one of the major heresies against Christianity. How much do you bet that he worships Luther, Mammon, Calvin and Asmodeus???
• Being German also means that he's from the same place as that witchcraft band called Faun. I bet that he already heard Walpurgisnacht on the radio. Perhaps he even likes the band. Or did no effort to call them out. (If you sit with witches then you're a witch too)

There are simply too many obvious signs of him being a witch. Sure, one or another might be coincidence, but all of them?

I hope that someone publish this in a sensationalist news site. Then other people will find further evidence that he's a witch.

He could prove his innocence, though. Witches float, honest people sink, so w could put a 20kg stone around his neck and throw him into the river. Of course he won't accept it, witches do not want to be outed as witches.

By the way, anyone trying to defend him is just trying to cover a witch. They're probably dancing partners in the Hexennacht (German for "the devil child-eating ritual")

[/sarcasm][/irony]

If you want, you could use GMail filters to delete those emails automatically. Here's how:

1. click the engine button (settings), then "see all settings", then "filters and blocked addresses".
2. click "create a new filter". Add "top of Google search" to the field "has the words", leave other fields blank.
3. click "create filter", then check the "delete it" box, then "create filter" again.
4. repeat steps 2-3 for other shit that SEO spam is likely to mention.

Important: never use as a filter anything that legitimate users might reasonably say. Only things that you're fairly certain to come from a spammer.

EDIT: I repeated two steps without noticing it. My bad.

I heavily recommend this game for people who like VNs or branching narratives. It's a bit light on horror, but extremely enjoyable.

And as the article says, play it first-hand, without seeing any sort of let's play or whatever. The first run is amazing.

I'm not saying anything further because it would be spoilers, and those are a big no for this game.

Got someone in my family with diabetes type I, and we've been hearing about the "magical" solution coming "soon" since she was diagnosed with it, in her childhood, around 30 years ago.

As such I'll keep what I see as a healthy amount of scepticism towards this piece of news.

I got your examples, but tone down your nationalistic bubbling - fascism is a global issue, and yet you're framing it specifically into USA politics, as if other users were necessarily expected to be American.

In part because they are generally too chicken shit to say anything.

It's because they're generally too chicken shit that they avoid dogwhistles, and actually say it - using a dogwhistle actually increases their odds to be detected and called out.

Here's a real example of that, from Reddit's r/againsthatesubreddits.

And while there are “false positives”, those are almost all immediately resolved with “yo dog. Uhm… I get you are in your mid 30s but you may want to stop putting your birth year in posts” and a “… holy fuck. Fucking nazis”.

From my experience, that is far from true. Those people finding false positives will usually insist that the other is a Nazi, to the point of irrationality. Often doing things like I criticised Josh Fagundes (check the Twitter link in the OP) doing, and trying to justify their false positive as a true positive by grasping at straws.

It's like witch hunting - once you get labelled a witch, it doesn't really matter if you're a witch or not, you're going to be treated as one.

As for “false negatives”: Okay? Some fascists will be undetected with or without acknowledging their “super secret code” of dog whistling.

"Some"? No. More like "a lot of fascists". Because you're looking for a super secret code while they're saying things in the open.

Also, note that trying to decrease the amount of false negatives will increase the amount of false positives, and vice versa. So those issues are interconnected.

EDIT: about your example:

“yo dog. Uhm… I get you are in your mid 30s but you may want to stop putting your birth year in posts” and a “… holy fuck. Fucking nazis”.

That is not how it usually happens. It's usually like this:

• [Alice] you put a 88 in your posts, so I you're probably a Nazi. Fuck off Nazi.
• [Bob] No, that's my birth year. ...holy fuck, fucking nazis. I'm removing the "88".
• [Alice] Trying to hide yourself, Bob the Nazi? I'm not stupid! (implied: "I can't be wrong!")
• [Charlie] Alice said that Bob is a Nazi who uses 88 dogwhistles. He's probably a Nazi.
• [Dan] Alice and Charlie said that Bob is a Nazi. Both. He's a Nazi for sure. (implied: ad populum fallacy)

You see a low-key version of that in this very thread, with Josh being a low-key version of Alice.

lol

I'm not surprised that you didn't get it.

Apparently my method is a mix of those listed in the text.

I'm in a similar situation as OP, some of my income is irregular. So my monthly budget isn't directly based on the last month income, I use the average of the last six months, relying on a checking account for that. (I keep it with enough money to last me one or two months.)

Then I split that budget into four categories:

• savings - I aim for 25%. Into the saving account it goes.
• monthly fixed expenses - periodic, somewhat predictable, monthly. For example bills, cornmeal and rice, cat food, etc.
• variable expenses - they're necessities like the above, but there's some wiggling room. Like, if necessary I don't mind eating eggs four lunches a week and walking instead of taking a bus, but I'd rather not to. Usually split into four weeks, so I expend it gradually.
• "fluff"¹ - avoidable expenses that I still want for some reason like "it improves my mood". Things for my hobbies, going to a restaurant, buying nicer clothes or hardware, etc. Unused fluff gets transferred to my savings account in the following month.

Then here's how I address some complexities:

• periodic expenses for things that I buy every few months (e.g. gas canisters) - I include a fraction of them into the monthly fixed expenses, and only remove the money from the checking account when buying it
• erratic but large expenses (e.g. house repairs) - I usually "borrow" this money from the savings, then "repay" it in the following months, as a fixed expense².
• high income multiple months in a row - I cap the budget and send the overflow to the savings.
• low income multiple months in a row - cut down fluff, then reduce variable expenses, then reduce monthly fixed expenses, then reduce savings, in this order.
• really low income multiple months in a row - if really necessary I borrow from the savings, keeping in mind that I'll need to repay myself.

Notes:

1. The actual name that I give to this category is "imposto das lombrigas", or roughly "roundworm tax". That's from from my family jokingly referring to cravings as "to have roundworms for [something].
2. Some people might use a credit card instead for that, to build credit; that also works, but it depends a lot on the government that you pay taxes to. I do have a credit card but I tend to avoid it, as often there are discounts for paying things in cash.

Well sure, but people use dog whistles so it’s important to recognize them.

Fascists don't need to use dogwhistles to call each other. And they often don't use them, specially not the best known dogwhistles - because it's like saying "I'm a fascist lololol please kick my arse!".

As such, when you look for dogwhistles, you're bound to get

• lots of false positives - someone being mislabelled a fascist because they used the same symbol to convey something else;
• lots of false negatives - fascists slipping past your radar, because they didn't use the dogwhistles that you trained yourself to identify

It's simply not a good way to find and get rid of them. Unlike looking at what they're saying "in the big picture"; that's always reliable because they need to convey their shitty discourses if they want to spread them.

Context can be important but sometimes it’s subtle

Context is always important. And as a general rule (not failproof): if you're actively looking for the context and it's still too subtle for you, then odds are that it's too subtle for the fascists to get it too.

(Note: I'm talking about "fascists" here but it also applies to other shitty groups of people.)

Not the point. “Infestation” + 88 + gassing vermin is absolutely not comparable to the mental gymnastics you just vomited out as an example.

You didn't read the Twitter thread that I've linked, right? Do it. It's actually way worse mental gymnastics than my shitty example. ("1-4 players = Nazi dogwhistle" tier.)

Even if the developer was truly this oblivious, it would still not change the issue of it, and the Nazis that posted on their Discord for so long were clearly proof of that as well.

Give this a check. The developers are changing the name of the game, and addressing the Discord server by pausing discussions there until they get better moderation.

EDIT: by the way you're already doing less worse than he did. At least you're trying to connect discursive elements, like "gassing vermin", instead of doing conspiracy shit tier things like "they're active from 2010 to 2024! That must be a sign of an enemy Stand 14 words!". And the fact that you called me a "tankie" shows that you at least checked my profile to see if I was potentially a Nazi, seriously, props for that.

More like "tankie user defends basic reading comprehension".

What Josh is doing here is witch hunting like a moron. That only helps the Nazi by giving them a believable cover.

Relevant reply from the developer. I'll transcribe it here.

@everyone // Our game "Infestation 88" is set in the 1980s, with the year 1988 chosen simply due to its symmetrical design in the game's artwork/logo. Unfortunately, we were unaware of any additional meaning the number '88' has. However, after learning about this, we're changing the game's name to "Infestation: Origins" We apologize for our ignorance on the and appreciate that this was brought to our attention so we could address it ASAP!

With respect to our Discord server, we also apologize for the current lack of moderation in place, and will be working on remedying this ASAP. As per the rules, any hateful speech or content in any regard will result in a ban. We also plan to update our FAQ soon when we have a chance to address common questions that pop up. We greatly appreciate your patience and support!

@here Due to the overwhelming number of posts and rule-breaking content, we're temporarily pausing discussion until we have better moderation in place. We hope to have things back online soon! Thank you again for your patience.

Okay... I think that it's worth to look further at the Twitter comment chain from Josh Fagundes, mentioned in the text.

I'll use the exact same [lack of] reasoning that the author used to "prove" that he's a Nazi. (I don't think that he's a Nazi, mind you; I'm doing this to show how bloody stupid his witch hunting is):

• Josh 'Anoriand' has 14 characters, including the quotation marks. Coincidence? Perhaps not!
• Look, I'm not saying it's IMPOSSIBLE that this game wasn't made with ill intent is exactly 14 words. And it's immediately followed by "but 88". Coincidence? Perhaps not!

"Conclusion": I'm going to play it safe and treat Josh Fagundes as a nazi!

...yes, it is that tier of stupid. And if the developers are actually Nazi trying to push a Nazi discourse into the players, Josh is not "denouncing" them. He's actually helping them to push said Nazi discourse, since now they can say "ah, that's just someone being silly. Pay no mind, look at the ridiculous shit that he's using to "prove" that our game is Nazi."

Here's a better approach.

What's "88" in the title conveying to the player, within the context of the game? Through all the screenshots being shared, I've seen it being consistently used to refer to 1988, and nothing else. Is there any other element contextualising it to be interpreted as "heil Hitler" instead of the year?

In my opinion the better option is to ditch the concept of dogwhistle. We [people in general] should look at what a symbol (including words, gestures, etc.) conveys within a certain context, we shouldn't be picking individual symbols and assuming the discourse (what is being said) based on them.

For example, the 88 in the title of the game should be associated with the rest of the game. Because depending on the rest of the game it might convey only "1988", or it might convey "heil Hitler".