lobelia581 @ lobelia581 @lemmy.dbzer0.com

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The US copyright office says this on their website

Uploading or downloading works protected by copyright without the authority of the copyright owner is an infringement of the copyright owner's exclusive rights of reproduction and/or distribution.

If the company downloaded books without buying them to train their AI, that's copyright infringement

US

UK

EU

Australia cuz why the hell not

The uploader is the infringing party, not the downloader.

an exclusive right of the copyright holder is the right to duplicate their work. downloading IS illegal because you're creating an unauthorized duplicate of the work on your machine. your duplicate is distinct from the duplicate that someone else had created and uploaded. it's just very hard to get caught downloading, and it's not very cost effective for companies to pursue since they would only stop one person. that's why most companies like the RIAA targeted torrents for their lawsuits, because they could easily see the ip addresses (which is why you should always use a vpn when torrenting) and because they could shut down uploaders. but downloading itself is still very illegal

My work does not violate copyright, unless I use a substantial part of the other works.

like I said, the AI is not a violation (probably, unless the courts later disagree), it's proof that unauthorized duplication of copyrighted works has occurred, and that is illegal

There was still copyright infringement because the company probably downloaded the text (which created another copy) and modified it (alteration is also protected by copyright) before using it as training data. If you write an original novel and admit that you had pirated a bunch of novels to use for reference, those novels were still downloaded illegally even if you've deleted them by now. The AI isn't copyright infringement itself, it's proof that copyright infringement has happened.

But personally I don't think the actual laws will matter so much as which side has the better case for why they will lead to more innovation and growth for the economy.

it's proof that we're growing

you're doing great bro, keep up the good work

my old person trait is thinking that all of the above are extremely reasonable expectations and it's a sad world we live in where most of those aren't the case anymore