You're absolutely correct. Anyone can enjoy any app they like and either pay for it or not.
But coming into a thread about ways to ensure Lemmy gets the support it needs to develop and instances get the support they need to keep going to tell everyone how much you love your app is infantile.
If you want to use Sync, be my guest, I'm glad you've found an app you like. I genuinely don't care what app anyone uses. Also, if you want to share your love of an app with others, feel free to do that too.
But - and try to hear this - hijacking a thread which is about making sure Lemmy gets developed (without which your app won't work) and supporting instances (without which your app won't work) to say how much you love your app is beyond crass.
It is absolutely blowing my mind how insular some people are. 'just let me use Sync', 'I just want to access Lemmy in my favourite app', 'who asked you for your opinion?'
It's like they don't know that the API their app accesses was built by a couple of guys or that the data their app consumes is paid for by people running that software. And then they get uppity when you point out to them that maybe a thread pointing out it might be a good idea to support those people isn't the place for them to tell everyone how much they love Sync.
For me, the fuss, in this thread is about Sync users inexplicable need to jump into a thread about supporting Lemmy development and keeping instances afloat with comments about how much they love Sync.
True, drama hits everywhere, but it can easily be avoided in a post about the importance of supporting lemmy development and instance sustainability by not going on that post to comment how much you personally love a for-profit app. Or any app in fact.
Not the person you were replying to but it does get a bit much when a thread isn't about Sync - like this one for example, which is trying to draw attention to funding Lemmy development and instance sustainability - and then it gets hit with people talking about how much they love Sync and they're happy to pay for it.
Maybe, yeah. I could be just being unrealistically optimistic but I do think Lemmy has a higher degree of the sort of people who don't see changing the default settings as a major issue (as oppose to reddit for example).
Couldn't say, but I think when Lemmy rolls out account migration features (like Mastodon/Firefish/Misskey etc) we'll probably see a fairly large amount of people move elsewhere.
Lemmy's at an odd stage of development right now, kinda federates, kinda doesn't. As it matures, so will its userbase and I think any potential centralisation issues will take care of themselves. At the moment, users have to physically move (as I have twice already to help decentralisation only to see the place I moved to become very popular lol).
Well, I'm subbed on .world so it's only fair I pay my way on this instance, irregardless of it's size, the admins put in a lot of work after all. But, yeah, without the Lemmy devs, no instance has actual software to run so funding them has to be the priority, at least right now.
I absolutely agree, whilst I do monthly donate to .world, I donate more to Lemmy devs at the moment as it 's at a crucial stage of development and financial support is imperative right now. I just don't think NLnet are set up to offer that sort of grant system.
NLnet aren't crystal clear but I think they see their role as getting something up and running rather than continued funding, which is fair enough. Trying to support a multitude of projects indefinitely isn't really feasible. At some point I feel it's justified to ask users of the project (i.e. us) to support future work.
They might contribute to an existing instance sure, but I doubt they'd host. There's no real financial incentive for the profit driven to host a Lemmy instance unless they charge for membership and I doubt even Sync users are naive enough to pay twice for something.
"Lemmy is entirely open source and funded exclusively by donations. The maintainers dessalines and nutomic have been working on it full time for the past years thanks to generous support by the NLnet foundation. Now that this support is coming to an end, the project is increasingly relying on donations from individual users to fund development. Your donation allows the developers to fully focus on making Lemmy better for everyone."
If all the big instances go away through lack of financial support, they're going to find out they paid $130 to swap Sync memes with the 3 people left.
Leraje @ leraje @lemmy.world Posts 5Comments 165Joined 2 yr. ago
That grant is coming to an end, if it hasn't already.