All drugs have side-effects, sure, and key to note 1) some drugs have more; some have less. 2) some have extensive longterm research. Others do not. While ozempic-like drugs have
been around for 20 years, for the vast majority of that time they were centered on treatment of diabetes, which as you said they realized it had beneficial side-effects alongside the bad like weight-loss. This is simply why I say to caution anything as being a "miracle drug," unless you wish to define that yourself — because that at least to me implies no side-effects and implies a comprehensive resolution of the problem as opposed to a masking of the root causes, while also having been thoroughly studie. At least with say antibiotics, sure, there are some serious side-effects; but they get to the heart of the issue and eliminate the bacteria. Moreover it's a solution to a problem we cannot yet resolve in any other way. In the vast majority of cases where ozempic is being prescribed, weight-loss, that is not the case.
I'd rather not repeat myself too much but it is again like smoking. Tobacco and pharmaceuticals would hail cigarettes as "miracle drugs" because the long-term research had yet to bear out what many had long feared: that the weight loss comes with a hefty a price. Well, in kind, I am concerned there is a hefty price and anything too good to be true usually is — especially when it comes to pharmaceutical marketing.
Again, I just want to again reiterate: Literally everything Ozempic does positively, from dementia to cravings to weight-loss, can be achieved by eating a healthy diet. Period. Full stop. This isn't like antibiotics where you can just take vitamin C and eliminate C-diff. Unless you have problems creating GLP-1, all the benefits of Ozempic — KEY POINT: AND MORE because you're actually avoiding anti-nutrients and taking in a diverse array of nutrients — can be achieved by simply eating what scientists have already concluded as being the healthiest diet: A Mediterranean plant-based diet. (and that doesn't even mean excluding all meats).
And no, I'm not saying it should be taken off the market; only that I'm practicing skepticism and not calling it a miracle drug because it masks a poor habit; it doesn't fix it. If Ozempic caused someone to stop eating all poor food and start eating their leafy greens and stop chugging starbucks coffees and adopt the scientist-recommended Mediterranean diet, then sure, I might be more likely to call it that. It does not.
Can you elaborate? If you're taking Ozempic for obesity, then in the vast majority of cases there is generally a nutritional deficiency at the heart of your diet — that includes missing nutrients like fiber, or adding anti-nutrients in the realm of added sugar. Unless you have some thyroid issue or are already diabetic, etc., which would require a different sort of intervention.
In dealing with my mom's ailments and navigating the medical system, most general doctors don't know jack shit about nutrition, and there is no mandatory referral to a dietician before prescription for ozempic.
I see you're using personal attacks to substitute a lack of substantive rebuttal; perhaps this is a reflection of your own personal insecurities?
Considering I'm pro-vaccine and actually generally pro-AI (probably unpopular in these parts?) in the same way I would be pro-printing press in terms of the liberation of knowledge and potential of the masses, no, I don't think I'm being an anti-tech Luddite.
No I stimulate GLP-1 the good old fashioned way, by eating a balanced diet.
Not doomsaying. Turns out I'm simply echoing what experts have already said:
It’s also important to remember weight is only one part of the health equation. If you suppress your appetite but maintain a diet high in ultra-processed foods low in micronutrients, you could lose weight but not increase your actual nourishment. So support to improve dietary choices is needed, regardless of medication use or weight loss, for true health improvements.
Note, read this article in full as it strikes a good balance of caution between recognizing the potential of drugs like ozempic but also looking at the bigger picture.
I would really hesitate calling it a miracle drug as there are documented side-effects and side-effects yet to be fully understood after long-term use.
Additionally while GLP-1 can reduce caloric intake, it doesn't actually fix the poor dietary choices that got you there in the first place. Like a smoker people will misconstrue having a low BMI with being overall healthy, even though there could be a host of macro and micro-nutritional deficits from fiber to omega-3's to vitamins to antioxidants, and still a relatively high consumption of processed foods with things like added sugar.
So sure it reduces the total amount of poor foods being consumed, but of course does nothing in promoting adoption of nutritionally-positive foods. In one respect, the caloric weigh-loss still is itself a net-positive, hopefully people don't end up masking or cementing their other poor eating habits as a consequence.
I remember a refrain between my dad and I over Biden's term, "Could you just imagine what would happen right now if Trump was in office handling this...?" mostly in reference to Ukraine and even Gaza.
Censorship — So many subs have extremely odd restrictions on posts and comments; special rules to be able to comment; a list of words or phrases that shadow-remove your comments, etc. This sometimes doesn't matter with day-to-day stuff. It inhibits the capacity to explore controversial topics or have hard conversations. "Can't meta-refer to another thread or sub," "We want good content, but don't post lengthy sourced write-ups!," You find after dissecting why your comment was shadow-removed that "genocide" or "apartheid" trigger removal. No Ellipsis use on one sub, lol. I have a list of censored words by sub. Can't explore tough issues without legitimate adherence to free speech. It's one thing not to enable bigotry and incivility, but we need to be comfortable with being uncomfortable sometimes in order to yield breakthrough progress across echo-chambers.
Power-tripping mods — It has become worse in recent years. Subs that used to have respectable mods and a true appeals process just comes down to them blindly reaffirming whatever judgement there is absent of reason or ethics. Ultimately they aren't arbiters of civil discourse but more often than not blatantly attempt to shape discourse relative to their own agenda; r/news and r/worldnews are notorious for this, particularly.
Blocking — The hit-and-run of users throwing out weak arguments then running away by blocking is itself disappointing; but that when a user blocks it nukes the rest of the thread, disallowing you to respond to anyone else who independently replies to you makes ZERO sense.
(Bonus: bots, but that's a given).
In the end I'll go wherever the people are. I'll use reddit, lemmy, and I'm hopeful that the new old Digg returning with Kevin Rose and Ohanian will work out.
Yeah that is fair and I should've elaborated this as the Trump Administration. As in, Trump doesn't care because he both successfully ran from prison, and is now able to golf pretty much all he wants. If anything he probably resents America for refusing to vote for him in 2020. So now all the pilot fish surrounding Trump who helped get him elected for their own end are reaping their end of the bargain.
So naturally you've got the Russian assets (Gabbard, Flynn, Trump himself), the zealots like Mike Johnson and Stephen Miller, the corporate oligarchical opportunists like Musk. The power-hungry (like Trump's sons, JDV, etc.), and so on. It's a big fuck-you to America and it ultimately matters little to me whether it's Trump or the broader Republican party. As far as I'm concerned they all made this; they all enabled it. They are criminal cartel.
The way I see, Trump's the Trump Administration's motives are:
(1) Plunder the government of anything of value.
(2) Cause a recession so rich can buy everything up on the market.
(3) Sabotage America geopolitically on behalf of foreign adversaries, most notably Russia.
(4) Cement power in their control and go after any rivals.
Edit: For clarification, I don't think it really matters what part of this is Trump himself versus the people he surrounds himself with and permits as the executive to do what they're doing in their own personal agendas that align with one or more of these 4 points.
This isn't helping to motivate me in applying my BSE degree I earned years ago lol. I've been pretty content with my current WFH job, even if it's unrelated to software development. It sure does seem like there are many inflated egos in the industry and I'm not sure if I have the patience to navigate them. That's not to say I'm better than they are, but goddamn the pissing contests in any arena get tiresome.
This absolute imbecilic Russian operative has been using a single-word password, "shraddha" for her devices for years... And now Russia has their spy in the central seat overseeing all intelligence assets in the USA. Fucking absurd.
His departure from Reddit in 2020 preceded the major API destruction that pretty much falls exclusively on Huffman to my knowledge. As a bonus Ohanian to his credit on leaving:
On June 5, 2020, Ohanian resigned from Reddit's board, asking to be replaced by a Black candidate in response to the murder of George Floyd.[2] Days later, Michael Seibel, an African-American entrepreneur, was named a Reddit board member.
For those who haven't heard, Digg is poetically making a comeback, with a team-up between Kevin Rose and Alex Ohanian no less. They bought Digg back a couple months ago and are going back to something closer to the old Digg.
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All drugs have side-effects, sure, and key to note 1) some drugs have more; some have less. 2) some have extensive longterm research. Others do not. While ozempic-like drugs have been around for 20 years, for the vast majority of that time they were centered on treatment of diabetes, which as you said they realized it had beneficial side-effects alongside the bad like weight-loss. This is simply why I say to caution anything as being a "miracle drug," unless you wish to define that yourself — because that at least to me implies no side-effects and implies a comprehensive resolution of the problem as opposed to a masking of the root causes, while also having been thoroughly studie. At least with say antibiotics, sure, there are some serious side-effects; but they get to the heart of the issue and eliminate the bacteria. Moreover it's a solution to a problem we cannot yet resolve in any other way. In the vast majority of cases where ozempic is being prescribed, weight-loss, that is not the case.
I'd rather not repeat myself too much but it is again like smoking. Tobacco and pharmaceuticals would hail cigarettes as "miracle drugs" because the long-term research had yet to bear out what many had long feared: that the weight loss comes with a hefty a price. Well, in kind, I am concerned there is a hefty price and anything too good to be true usually is — especially when it comes to pharmaceutical marketing.
Again, I just want to again reiterate: Literally everything Ozempic does positively, from dementia to cravings to weight-loss, can be achieved by eating a healthy diet. Period. Full stop. This isn't like antibiotics where you can just take vitamin C and eliminate C-diff. Unless you have problems creating GLP-1, all the benefits of Ozempic — KEY POINT: AND MORE because you're actually avoiding anti-nutrients and taking in a diverse array of nutrients — can be achieved by simply eating what scientists have already concluded as being the healthiest diet: A Mediterranean plant-based diet. (and that doesn't even mean excluding all meats).
And no, I'm not saying it should be taken off the market; only that I'm practicing skepticism and not calling it a miracle drug because it masks a poor habit; it doesn't fix it. If Ozempic caused someone to stop eating all poor food and start eating their leafy greens and stop chugging starbucks coffees and adopt the scientist-recommended Mediterranean diet, then sure, I might be more likely to call it that. It does not.