lennybird @ lennybird @lemmy.world

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But there are conservative-leaning never trumpers who have an ounce of moral standards that doesn't let them vote for Trump who is unquestionably worse than Liz Cheney in every way (namely, she didn't try to overthrow democracy on January 6th and continue to peddle the Big Lie).

It is these voters Liz Cheney seeks for Harris and it's clearly scaring the fuck out of Trump lol

That Rick Scott is even publicly addressing this means they're worried as hell lol.

The gap in early voting was never going to be as wide as 2020. Trump was actively telling his cult to NOT vote early. Now they're telling them to do just that.

At the end of the day, the take-home message of this article is that Democrats are over-performing with seniors relative to 2020.

Trump is running 5 percentage points behind Harris among voters ages 65 and over, slipping back from the previous month, when he and Harris were tied with that demographic. It’s a major shift from 2020, when Trump carried 53 percent of the senior vote in Pennsylvania in a losing effort in the state.

Fair point. I feel Immediately following elections Democrats need to pivot into this one-part educational teacher mindset to dispel common myths on us history and civics (eg, "The Dems were the slavers!"), and one-part activism. Every election cycle we fall for the trap of letting the blind lead the blind. To carve out the winning electorate by whatever means necessary as you say. But when do we actually try to nudge Americans in the right direction? This is what I commended Warren or Sanders for because they built a movement around where the country needed to go through facts and conviction and persuaded people.

Democrats rarely persuade and equally fall for whatever bullshit narrative Republicans design.

I wish Dems would start spitting fire and come out with an ad going through the list of prejudices throughout our history.

"Native Americans / Aborigines? Italians? Jews? Asians? Blacks? Latinos? Women voting? Muslims? Gay? And now trans?

Isn't it always something? When will we all see the pattern here that these witch hunts always fall on the wrong side of history. And they're always perpetrated by the same sort of people - not grouped by the color of their skin race or religion, but of profound ignorance rooted in fear of the unknown. Cutting across every other adjective used to divide us, we are ALL human."

Side note but my god I still think of that Bernie Sanders ad from his 2016 campaign, Vote Together.

Anyone remember Umbrella Man from the 2020 Minneapolis riots? He was smashing windows and trying to frame BLM protesters when in fact he was a right wing nut job.

Wasn't the only case if I recall of that year.

Boogaloo boys tried to do something similar in framing nearby protesters over George Floyd when they shot up a Federal courthouse, killing a security guard.

Investigations into the 2020 protests found that the vast majority of protests were peaceful and a majority of the violence was instigated by counter-protesters.

Editorial boards are strictly segregated from the objective reporters. Except for right wing media anyway.

This is key. Follow journalists and editors who leave WaPo and support them wherever they go.

Otherwise this may just be playing into the hand of Bezos to cripple yet another outlet that speaks truth to power.

ProPublica does phenomenal work.

I think there have been some "leaked" info to reputable journalists how both Biden and Harris pretty much despise Bibi at this point. I think if you look at it in the aggregate in how they pushed for the ceasefire (as opposed to Trump speaking with Bibi to actively undermine it), in her comments after meeting with Bibi shortly after becoming the presumed nominee following Biden stepping down — there is a clear tonal change from, say, 6-months-ago even. So yeah, I think her hands are pretty well tied.

Either way, the reality any sane person can understand is that there are much better odds we see movement from Harris than we do from Trump.

It's because there is a large, internally-polled segment of the Pennsylvania electorate who are Jewish and sympathetic to Israel.

Harris can't afford to not court them.

I have no doubt she vehemently dislikes Bibi and would wish to cut aid.

Well there's plenty of reason to be anxious, but thus October Surprise combined with some recent polls gives me some renewed hope.

We have to remember that most people just don't care or pay attention at all. People here are 10000x more informed than the average American let alone the bottom of the bell curve.

You can't vote so you're irrelevant but still, no, the only agency I'm privileged to have is my vote. Doing nothing means more die. Voting Harris means less die. Simple.

Correction: it is less wrong.

Standing by and letting someone kill more when your action could've resulted in less makes you as culpable in the killing as Biden and Harris themselves.

Yes, killing wrong.

Killing more people with less chance to kill fewer people more wrong.

Again, dichotomous choice. Easiest choice to make, really.

You seem to be under the impression that your not voting changes the binary outcome.

This pyrrhic victory neglects to recognize that either Trump or Harris will be elected. And there is no circumstance that Trump is better than Harris. Not on women's rights. Not on climate change. Not on Ukraine. And not on Gaza.

Whether you like it or not, it's Harris or Trump. Sticking your head in the sand doesn't change this fact.

So both the moral and pragmatic solution is to choose the lesser evil that gives the highest odds to improve all these groups. Which is Harris. Factually.

Less killing is better than more killing.

Attempted ceasefire is better than undermining said ceasefire.

More amicability better than less amicability.

Less Ukrainians die vs more Ukrainians die.

Comparative logic.

I laughed my ass off at this, too.

Your lack of choosing the lesser poison for million is, indeed, complicity in of itself whether you like it or not. Patting yourself on the back as you usher in Trump when you could've had Harris — who is obviously in every single way better on Gaza than Trump — is perhaps the most illogical thing I have ever seen.

Friendly reminder that one or Trump's final acts as President was to pardon this drunkard of federal charges related to defrauding Trump supporters over a build the wall fund. He did so before the trial even began.

Bannon still races state level charges related to this, however.