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Your opinion is very weird, friend.

when I asked if they changed their mailing address and checked their voting status, we discovered they weren’t.

They weren't what?

I don't know, man. Look at where big projects are at right now. Blender, Gimp, Linux, Inkscape, KDNLive...

It can happen.

But anyway. The day I can't use a secure, open-source web browser is the day I'll stop web browsing. Just like when I decided to never buy commercial music, go to the movies or buy a Smart TV.

It was not an argument. Just an observation. And your opinion doesn't make it less relevant.

As the matter of fact, both can co-exist.

Reddit fucked up Lemmy, and now that they're here, welp, it's bullshit.

Eh. Like I said... financial shit I don't care about.

Spectre wasn't even Firefox's fault. It was a CPU vulnerability.

In the end, if an open source browser cannot step up, some other will and take its place. I'm okay with that.

I like operating systems as boring as possible. Let it manage the underlying system while I focus on work. I think you just convinced me to try Arch now.

Thanks for the insight.

Ugh man, that's true. Would you say that sdf.org offers a better experience content-wise?

I can understand you, friend. We both want the same thing. Unfortunately, I don't know how to help in that respect, so I'll help in the ways I can - spreading the word and contributing to code if necessary.

Elaborate.

Got it.

Kinda weird that you focus on the financial side on this site of all places. I thought Lemmy didn't care too much about that.

But regardless. I don't care about the financial side. There are several competing open source browsers and any of them can take the helm.

I think you're assuming too much.

If Firefox disappears overnight, do you think the devs working for it are just going to sit down and twiddle their thumbs? They'll pick another project and carry on.

There are several examples of this happening. MySQL vs MariaDB, OpenSSL, PDF viewers, hell, even Linux can be included here too.

Ah man, shucks.

Oh, I understand. I'm just saying that the reasons were enough for a lot of people to give it a go, me included. You probably had a beefed up machine back then in 2008. I didn't, and launching a browser took several seconds, whereas Chrome launched like in one second or so.

Of course, Chrome started to suck and I came back to Firefox, especially when they caught up with Javascript.

You're comparing board game companies with a laptop manufacturing company, right?

A company manufacturing a laptop like the Framework laptop is not just sourcing parts and assembling them together. There's a LOT of work put in it, way more than some board game.

Their laptop costs in the thousands, and given their (so far) niche market, I can see why it isn't feasible for them to give away these expensive to manufacture machines to community ambassadors.

Everything you said, I've already known. Most people don't care about their browsers/ad-ridden smart TVs (yuck), spying phones, etc, etc.

But the article posted here is not for them. It's for the people who care.

And that's all I'm saying. You pretty much said at the beginning "Who cares?" for which I replied "Well, clearly not you, but other people do care."

My point is that none of those forks have to start from scratch if Firefox disappears. One of them will replace it.

As long as a browser is good enough for browsing the net, I'm okay with it.

I don't need, for example, DRM. If half of the web uses it, and a new browser alternative doesn't support it, then fuck it. The other half is still hundreds of millions of web pages for me to consume.

Sure, but the article author is quite likely not the target audience for Firefox.

I don't follow the relevance of that statement.

"People focus WAY TOO MUCH on space rockets! I don't care about them that much!"

"Ok, that means the article is not for you."

"Sure, but the article author is not the target audience for space rockets."

Okay?

Chrome was so lightweight and fast when it was launched. And it had a blazing fast Javascript engine. No other engine came close to it.

It was a pretty awesome browser back then during the "do no evil" era of Google.