kwomp2 @ kwomp2 @sh.itjust.works

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It is not. If it was consensual it might be. If it's real it's not.

Surpressing your empathy in face of dire news is your right. We all have to in order to psychologically survive these times.

I think you shouldn't act out that surpression as a funny joke in public. This adds to the brutalization of the public, wich we can't really afford in these times, if we want them to become more human, more bearable

Okay I dont know much about dino categorization, but let's say: The category "dinosaur" is a sum of descriptions of objective properties of dinosaurs and their relation to other species' properties (idk, no milk, thus no mammal..). Those properties and relations existed as the dinosaur existed. So I would agree: to that extend the categories existed, without us.

Let's say the category "poetry" describes a relational phenomenon that occurs when a combination of words or an arrangement of things (sunset, fossils) sparks an aesthetic experience.

This is not just discovered and described by humans, but it can exclusively happen when humans are present. As with dinos: the category "poetry" didn' exist before us. The difference I'm all about: What the category describes also did't exist before humans. Yes, there were fossils, but they alone would have never evolved to be a part of poetry without humans, the way dinos were dinos without humans.

You also rock.

You rock.

To the haters: I dont question your experience of (this) poetry. That I would be sorry for.

I questions the hypostasis, that is declaring your experience of the thing as a property of the thing.

No. By my logic human existence is the point in wich poetry exists.

Yes, we almost agree, I just argue: Poetry is not what sparks. It's the spark.

Sunrise exists: no poetry. Sunrise sparks someones mind: poetry.

Did anyone look this up?

Yeah nice, but also no not quite.. Before humans and before words there was no poetry. Just stones and bugs and stuff. It needed humans cognitive capacity to emerge/create (not discover) aesthetic categories, like poetry

Sorry for fact checking your poetic meme, but it made this claim that might be understood factual and unreflected mystification of nature is still quite a thing

Paywall at the real article... Why would they?

Yeah.. another way to say it would be:

Giving things (especially means of production) the attribute of property, "being property of X", is a contingent human decision. It's ONE specific way of organizing the handling of things (tightly connected to the idea that the "owner" uses the given thing for his*her own benefit).

Another way of organizing things, aka mode of decision making regarding ressources (nature, labour, and its products), production, distribution would be having a king that tells everyone what to do. Another option would be democracy: "Oh dang, we got a tractor over here. Let's see how we can use it best to fulfill the next important need"

That way you are right, your community (feat. You) would decide what to do with your tractor. Depending on how long capitalism would be gone at that time, people just might look at you a bit puzzled when you call it "yours". You know, since the idea of you being given the power to decide over a tractor you didn't build and can't consume, is quite weird ;)

If your question refers to it: Marxism is an analysis of the social structure of market economy. It doesn't work as a guidebook for individual behaviour inside of market economy, but for collective emancipation from a social order that results in exploitation.

Doing so would mean decide collectively/democratically over the collaborative use of the means of production.

"I'm buying some means of production with my money" and "their fields" is a market economy situation.

You don't go from caputalism to socialism by individually changing your personal economic behaviour, but by changing social order.

The ideology defines who is on what side of the "vs."

I don't know which one is actually worse.

A nostalgia themed glamourizing of brutality right next to "unwanted people". No explanation of how those two things connect, so all that stays is the association.

Kind of on a neuro-marketing like level of discours (just strenghtening your associations by creating emotions or atmosphere) he is mobilizing violence against immigrants. (And normalizing violence as a means of governing in general)

And they live in a filmstudio white house in one continious sitcom and voting is replaced by how many stars you give each episode. A commission of reaction-video-youtubers intetpret the episode to forge the ratings into political policy making

Okay on second thought I wanna take back that warriors comment, that was too bitchy. Guess I'm also not uneffected by how toxic the whole discourse on Israel (also in or between lefty communities) is.

Like, everyone seems to feel they'd have to be either "pro israel" or "pro palestine", wich imo 1. Is freaking dangerous for germans specifically 2. Doesn't recognize the complexity (in the sense of one can't just identify the totality of Israel with its right wing government as ome can't just identify palestine with hamas.) 3. It tends to overlook the perspective of both israelian and palestinian lefties

No, see response in other comment

Ok wow. First, thanks to everyone who have their estimates. Appreciated. And for everyone else and the warriors of downvoting: No I was not trolling abd not it's not THAT unilkely for it to be lefties (yes okay anarchists and tankies I mostly said as exmples so you know what I'm trying to ask)

If you are interested: there is a german lefty flavor called Antideutsche (anti-german). They are Zionists, antifas, anticapitalist, have a thing for violence (stylizing "bomber harris" for example), say weird thing like "protecting ur environment is like protecting your 'home country' like nazis would" and sometimes think of whoever basically as if they were nazis.

I'm not making this up, lefties go weird ways sometimes.

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Does anyone know what political stance(s) the attacking crowd is made of?

Like, also lefties? Tankies, anarchists? Or like MAGAs?

So close to not denormalizing gay men, yet...

Ah yes, disney making things to raise awareness and safe the world

Ah yes, aquarium fishes being captured in the wild