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Given you're one of the more rational commenters on Lemmy I've seen, you might be interested in why this is such an issue.

Large language models are stochastic, where their output can vary randomly, but only for equally probable things to say. Like if you say "where are we going to go on this sunny day" it might answer "the beach" one time and "a park" another.

But when things are not equally probable in the training data, because they have no memory between invocations, they end up collapsing on the most likely answer - this is after all what they were trained to predict.

For example, if you ask Google's LLM to give you a random number between one and ten, you'll get the number seven every single time. This is because humans are more biased to the number 7 (followed by 3) over numbers like 4, and that pattern is picked up by the model, which doesn't have a memory between invocations so it goes with the most represented option and doesn't vary it at all over the initial requests (it will vary when there's a chat history though).

So what happens when you ask for a description of a doctor? By default, you get a white male every single time. This wouldn't be an issue if it varied biased probabilities in the training data stochastically, but it can't do this for demographics any better than it can for numbers between one and ten.

Obviously an intervention is needed, and various teams are all working on ways to do that. Google initially gave instructions to specifically add diversity to every prompt showing people, which was kind of like using a buzzsaw where a scalpel was needed. It will get better over time, but there's going to be edge cases that need addressing along the way.

In terms of the Holocaust query, that topic is often adjacent to conspiratorial denialism which is connected to a host of other opinions no one (other than Gab) wants in a LLM or voice assistant, so here too we're almost certainly looking at overly broad attempts to silence neo-Nazi denialism propaganda and not some sort of intended censorship of the actual history.

"I really like hanging out with all my non-disabled friends."

ChatGPT is correct that sometimes the inclusion of excess adjectives describing a majority population could have an implicit exclusionary interpretation that's less than ideal.

Whereas when describing a minority group, calling out the less common features are not necessary going to have that same exclusionary tone.

"I always have a great time with my D&D playing friends."

Clearly you need to figure out how to give antibiotic resistant bacteria cancer.

Well, there's counterfactual examples of this, so it must not be true.

In pretty much every single relationship worldwide, one person can very easily determine if the recommendation from the other for where to eat or what to watch is correct or not.

And yet successfully figuring out where to eat or what to watch is nigh impossible.

It's outstanding, but even right now at its best it still isn't perfect.

I'm very, very much looking forward to what they can eventually do using UE5 as the base in an era with generative AI to fill out the edges.

When the polish (pun intended) is there, the game is beyond everything else. But when you end up just a bit past the edges of where it holds your hand, it quickly loses the veneer, which is the key difference vs something like a Rockstar open world (but also very different budgets and aims).

There's a handful of studios I think will adapt especially well to the future of game development, and CDPR is one of them.

Because it is going to be possible to have CP 2077 main scenario style interactions across an entire open world within the next decade. And who better to curate that experience than the people delivering it in a diagonal slice?

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one...

• Galatians 3:28

This is one of the few sentiments that's both in the earliest primary source documents of Jesus and the apocrypha:

"...when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female..."

• Gospel of Thomas 22

When Salome inquired when the things concerning which she asked should be known, the Lord said: When ye have trampled on the garment of shame, and when the two become one and the male with the female is neither male nor female.

• Lost Gospel of the Egyptians via Clement

At the time Jesus was actually alive, the interpretation of Genesis 1:27's "So God created humans in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them" was widely thought to mean that there was a hermaphroditic original 'Adam.' This was widely discussed just a few decades after the time of Jesus among the Egyptian Jews in Alexandria, particularly Philio, contemporary to Paul.

As well, at the time he was alive there was a very brutal form of forced hormone alteration by castrating prepubescent boys to leave them more feminine. Only a few decades after Jesus's crucifixion the emperor of Rome even married someone this was done to (just a few years before the extant gospel of Mark is finalized, talking about marriage only being between a man and a woman).

The ways in which a historical Jesus would have been thinking about the notions of gender or sexuality may be different than you might think back then.

In my mind, the historical people at the center of the tradition has always been more important than the echo of them leftover in books confirmably marred by edits, revisions, and omissions. For both the old book and the new.

And I think the historical Jesus might have agreed.

His disciples said to him, "Twenty-four prophets have spoken in Israel, and they all spoke of you."

He said to them, "You have disregarded the living one who is in your presence, and have spoken of the dead." [...]

Jesus said, "Whoever drinks from my mouth will become like me; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to him."

The people who had a version of Jesus saying this also thought he was talking about matter being made up of indivisible parts, something only proven to be true beyond any doubt around a century ago.

It's easy for false prophets to cast weeds among the wheat, but it's very hard to plant seeds that mature well with the times. To do that takes true foresight. Eventually as the years drag on, what was wheat and what was weeds inevitably becomes clearer as each grows - it's an inescapable separator between truth and fiction.

The Old Testament is flat out wrong when Elihu claims in Job that "why it rains and where snow comes from is beyond human understanding." This knowledge had even become known in Jesus's time, in the same Roman book published just 50 years before he was born in the Roman empire which also talked about Greek atomism and survival of the fittest.

The church, in an age where people were still peeing on their hands to clean them, appointed itself an arbiter of what was wheat and what was weeds and proceeded to uproot anything it declared a weed.

TL;DR: Having blind faith in those who have even more blind faith sounds a bit like the blind leading the blind to me. Maybe one would be less in danger of blaspheming the holy spirit and the notion of divine revelation if avoiding declaring anything absolutely true or false for sure until having sufficient confirmable information to evaluate it.

That "wait and watch" approach is even the methodology of how the aforementioned book 50 years before Jesus got all that other stuff right about evolution and atoms. A book sharing word for word similarities with one of Jesus's most famous parables, about how only what survived to reproduce multiplied. Also the only parable in the earliest written canonized gospel which has a "secret explanation" for what was a clearly public telling of the parable itself to thousands.

Even then they should still be held to a higher standard.

Especially now in the era of generative AI.

The poster should have a well known character in the world lore holding the Coke, or a location in the map for the car ad, etc.

The ads should feel like they are actually a part of the world, and shouldn't be put in a game unless this can be accomplished.

In game ads don't have to suck. But because the power dynamic is such that shit ads can be shoved down players' throats with the only response being to not buy that publisher's games, the medium isn't going to find an acceptable equilibrium.

In game ads in live service games for in game assets may not suck too much though (an inevitable part of the future).

Being a Jack of all trades may mean being a master of none, but it's still better than to be a master of one.

Right-wing media has really done a number on critical thinking.

Correlation is not cause and effect.

It's more likely that the lack of critical thinking was there in the first place and served as the soil for right wing media to sink its roots into.

Stupid and hateful people just not having guns does not "a nice place" make.

You tell me the trusted source, and I'll give you an article on China's zero COVID woes. Here's CNN, with details IMO much worse than the link I previously shared from a site you seem to have a beef with:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/28/china/china-covid-lockdown-explainer-intl-hnk/index.html

It's critical for the USA that he win this next election - Trump is an existential threat to Democracy in the US.

It's critical for the world that Trump not win.

Trump is immediately going to stop any support for Ukraine and hand that to Putin on a silver platter, is going to weaken NATO and the UN as much as he possibly can, and is going to flip the US from the virtual 'allies' to 'axis' before the end of his first next four years. Which will go on as long as he is alive, as once he gets power he's not giving it up.

He isn't even playing coy with his praise for megalomaniacal current dictators, especially Putin.

With Trump in charge of the US, you can expect him and Putin together actively working to spread Christian fascism to Europe using subversion and eventually force where needed.

It's not just the US that's on the line in November.

I mean, I absolutely will be ashamed when I vote for Biden in November.

Ashamed that the best this supposed bastion of democracy could offer up for me to choose between are:

• The oldest person ever in the running for the job who makes everyone hold their breath he doesn't do something addled each time he's in front of a podium.
• A guy in several criminal cases at the same time who tried to overthrow the government and is simultaneously beloved by conservative Christians trying to ban books on sex while having had sex with a pornstar who he said reminded him of his daughter.
• A guy denouncing modern science who admitted that he had a worm that ate part of his brain and died.

There's a lot to unpack there, and pretty much all of it makes me feel shame, irrespective of my ethnic background.

The US could be such a nice place...

Not really. You'd still have way too many stupid and hateful people.

They'd just be slightly less dangerous stupid and hateful people.

(And yes, I do mean slightly, but am not going to go more into details of the other methodology with much higher body counts that the hatred of small minded folks have taken over the years.)

I just think it's impressive that the church so successfully rebranded the guy kissing his best friend and having his "beloved disciple" leaning on him at dinner while feeding that best friend food as being anti-LGBTQ.

"What goes into your mouth does not defile you" indeed.

This is the same guy who extracannonically was allegedly saying things like:

when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female [...] then you will enter [the kingdom].

• Gospel of Thomas saying 22

A sentiment that seems to have been loosely around when Paul was writing in Galatians about how there was no male or female.

Nonbelievers cede too much of the historical Jesus to the church IMO. The canonical Jesus is a total tool, but the Jesus between the lines and in early apocrypha is pretty lit, strongly denouncing religious orthodoxy at the time and telling people not to bother praying or sacrificing and especially not giving money to the church, to just be true to themselves and not do what they hate, "everything is permissible," etc. The church spins the whole thing with what's clearly a significant layer of propaganda on top of what was there before with "secret explanations" and shit, and they ended up getting away with it for millennia.

Literally the Jewish version of the Jesus story from the medieval ages has Judas and Jesus fucking, the Mar Saba letter is talking about claims in the first few centuries he was gay and has a secret version of a gospel where he's shacked up for a week in a bedroom with a dude covered by nothing but a sheet, and scholars today are like "no, that unmarried guy in his 30s kissing and feeding his best friend wasn't gay because the Greek in the church's propaganda is the platonic version of the word beloved." It's like the ultimate "and they were roommates" shit.

China's handling of COVID-19 isn't exactly perfect either.

A MLM style whisper campaign app your friends can run where it actually listens in on the conversation and allows them to make money for dropping product mentions and recommendations to you and others during hang outs and in person conversations with the recording to tag and prove they actually mentioned it.

Between the ways deductibles and out of pocket maximums actually work, that's probably just a few years of fighting cancer on a Bronze or Silver ACA plan.

Just as criticism of Israel's behaviors isn't antisemitism, defense of their authoritarian violence isn't pro-Jewish.

Most right wing support of Israel comes from an interpretation of Revelations from the 20th century that Israel needed to exist again for Jesus to float down from the sky, when he would subsequently resurrect the believers into heaven and cast the nonbelievers (including the Jews) into eternal torment.

So the 'support' of Christian nationalists for Israel in their mind is kind of like a Looney Toons character pretending to be nice as they guide another character under an anvil.

They are so supportive that they can't wait for all the Jews to be in one place so they can be cast into hell by their beloved ancient comic book character.

Ok, but what variable is 🐈?