pathos @ krebssteven @lemmy.world

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Said it before, will say it again: While I am aware that it violates the dignity of those in question, I am strongly opposed to to the excemption of people from public health measures for religious reasons. I do not care if your god commands you to suffer. If your beliefs are standing in the way of protecting uninvolved members of society, it’s your beliefs that have to take a backseat, not other lives. No exceptions, no compromise. If they do not want minding the society they exist in, they can leave.

If it was only that easy. The quasi-religious convictions that Musk specifically holds in regards to Longtermism go ideologically deeper than just lust for power. Why do you think he still propagates his unrealistic ideas about spearheading a mars colonization?

Greed everybody can understand and reckon with. These ridiculous ideas make people do unintelligible things.

Yes. And yet, they used the same concept to justify their grasp for power.

The important part to understand is the paranoid style of the appeal. It’s not an appeal to unity. It’s one to vigilance.

I would disagree on your Musk-analysis. He and the other techbros are not after the money but after the power and influence that being in these positions nets them. The monetary gain is a side-effect. The goal is to enforce their unrealistic ideas about how to reshape society. Look up ‘Longtermism’ and the ridiculous ideas of one Curtis Yarvin. Remember MAGAts are fond of yammering about the World Economic Forum and the Gates, Soros etc? How these are supposedly trying to reshape society into some big brother-esque dystopia?

That is what the tech-oligarchs are facilitating.

Oh you mean ignoring the rule of law makes the judicative branch irrelevant? Who would’ve thonk.

That shit already started with Washington, the first american conspiracy theorist poisoning the ideological well of the nascent country by cautioning against enemies from within and without trying to undo the country instead of appealing to the coherence of a newly forming society.

While I get the cynicism, it’s not like there are no means to stall a possibly illegal practice until a proper ruling has been done. The judicative branch isn’t entirely toothless and isn’t ignorant of the reality of time-sensitivity.

In case you missed it: most of the people crying about their 2nd amendment rights and duties are the people that applaud this. The rest is aware that making use of their right would mean a civil war with former group.

It didn’t come out of nowhere and it isn’t surprising. It’s part of the fascist playbook to demonize that which they cannot subordinate to their cult of machismo and their fairytale of a golden past.

This is the true face of Musk, who is stuck perpetually in the mindset of a melodramatic 15 y/o.

Your paranoia seems lamentable as I take it that you confuse me with your interlocutor. I was hoping that you would expand on your position in a less heated side-conversation. Apparently that hope was in vain. Good luck on your crusade to educate the renitent.

Can you explain to me - an uninvolved fellow fedditor - how helping working class people out of their debt traps is bad? I understand that this is just circling money around people who don’t need it as badly as the poorest of the poor globally speaking and that this is just combating the symptoms instead of the sickness but for the individuals supported that way, is there any specific catch associated that does make this support ring hollow?

Gotcha. Read up on that, if they would not have consented had they not been deceived seems to be the typical issue to rule on these cases.

would need to be further defined if informed consent can only happen if you know and can verify the personal details of your potential partner. I doubt that is the scope of it and courts would rule that you consent to the act, not necessarily to the identity of your partner beyond what is apparent to you. This is different to for example getting married to an individual intending to mislead you.

Coz there never could be a new user calling you out. Sheesh. Less egocentrism dude.

This is not a reductio ad absurdum. You didn’t reduce anything to an absurd caricature. This is a false equivalency and you made a fool out of yourself.

There is a good case to be made that consumers need to be aware of their habits and if they are or are not supporting exploitation with them. But it isn’t on the individual consumer if practices continue. It is on the consumer rights advocates and lawmakers to tackle the issue and galvanize those they represent for support.

So next time you see somebody being blindly consumerist, maybe instead of attacking them you try to sway them to support a more proactive stance towards doing their part.

He tries to run diplomatic relations like he would be dealing with NYC mobsters. That man is entirely unsuited for office. The US population which elected him has shown to be unsuited for the leadership role they claim their country has. That’s the reality the rest of the world is facing. The US is a troubled state and an unreliable ally. Moreover, they are acting in the interests of adversarial nations to world peace and prosperity. Other nations who did that have been deemed rogue or terrorist states.

This is called ‘stochastic terrorism’. Publicly painting people in the most outrageous light until some of your acolytes feel called upon to realize the supposedly non-commital threats you made.

Fuck Trump. Fight the fascists.

Small addendum: As fascists often seek to indoctrinate the population into longing for a natural order only they (the fascists) can provide, a minority of relatively niche needs is the ideal target to demonstrate this supposed ‘nature’ in order to obtain the perceived moral right to structure society as they see fit. That science and society do not actually reflect this ‘nature’ is irrelevant. The enemy has been created.

I am actually quite relieved about it, as it demonstrates that germany is not just appeasing israel by the bon mot of "never again". It is actually taken seriously. Despite a bunch of eastern germans voting for neo-nazis because they are undereducated, economically disadvantaged and clearly living in an information bubble.