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Oh, Really?!

Maybe they are playing for gazans to finally ask for Gaza to be absorbed by Israel so they can claim it wasn't genocide?

I mean there is extensive research on the topic of incentives and how powerful they are. But sure you can go on and believe that humans aren't subject to being manipulated that way. Have a nice day

People following incentives blah-bkah is people being morons. See also “I was following orders” fallacy applied to army

No? It's being smart in the system around you. It might be unethical but following the incentives is the easy and profitable option. the incentives are set by the system in which you are living. Capitalism.

Capitalism strives for something? Niice. And I thought “economic system” does not have any strivings

I'm not sure where you got this. Economic, or broader, any social system strives for some kind of goal. Otherwise society wouldn't have implemented them. In the case of capitalism that goal is return on investments.

Anything has to be enforced because we consistently fail to produce developed and balanced humans. Whatever -ism you try to build around what kind of people we have now, it will fail. So cut the crap about capitalism already

The idea that there could be "developed and balanced" humans that would just resist the drive for profit that dominates our whole economy is just so flawed. We shouldn't try to make humans that fit the economic model. We should try to make an economic model that fits the humans we have. And the humans we have largely follow the incentives provided by the system, no matter how unethical the outcomes might be.

It's not people being morons it's people following the incentives of the system and fulfilling the responsibilities given to them by the companies they work for. Both of those are directly tied to capitalism. Because those "morons" are doing what capitalism strives for: maximizing the return on invested capital.

How exactly do you think that Wikipedia page disputes that companies are incentivised to maximize profit over everything else? It clearly says that

However, the doctrine of shareholder primacy has been criticized for being at odds with corporate social responsibility and other legal obligations.

The social responsibilities have to be enforced from the outside exactly because they are "at odds" with what companies would do without that enforcement.

And how does capitalism have anything to do with it?

Oh that's a rhetorical question right?

Under capitalism companies have one and only one responsibility: making the most profit from the capital invested in them. This means that the responsibilities of all employees, even/especially those deciding how the company should act, are driven by this directive. A CEO would not be fulfilling their responsibilities to the shareholders if they made decisions that lower their profits without being forced by law to make those decisions.

companies do not exist. Humans do

Companies forwards their directive of maximizing profits to the humans that are employed by these companies.

The concept of responsibility that hard to grasp?

For companies that seems to be case yeah

Have you not noticed that the Windows search has become a meme for being really useful in windows seven and useless in newer versions because it started

1. Searching the web and asking an ai for answers without you wanting that
2. In consequence syphoning out each and every search promt
3. Displaying fucking ads in the fucking search results

And that's just one example that's obvious enough to become a meme

BTW: any form of making a Microsoft product worse for profit of Microsoft is enshittification since they have both endusers and sellers of products that only work on windows/in the Microsoft ecosystem locked in with significant costs tied to leaving.

Then there is the other one: mad adlibs

Damn i felt that

I had to try this out loud, those are too many letters for so little syllables. But it does work.

I didn't say they aren't increasing it at all, just that they aren't doing it for all their needs.

Well, yeah, but because they don't want to increase monetary supply to keep inflation in check they need to tax you to fund their programs

You're missing the point. It's not the administration taking the money that's the problem. That's money (ideally) used to benefit everyone. The problem is the owner of the company taking a big share of the value you are producing with your labour.

Well, maybe Thor is wearing a sloth for a helmet, fur was popular at the time I imagine.

You know I always think "wow now he's gone full mask off" and then he does another thing.

'The fuck" is now "what the sigma" at least that's what I gathered from lurking on shitposting communities

Edit: and I'm deeply afraid of using it around people who don't know what that means. And also around people who do know what it means.

I will never be able to read a sentence starting like that without Gabe yelling at andy as my inner voice

Reminds me of the humanity spirits in the dark souls DLC

Now that's something I'm gonna save. And pray that you're not an agent trying to spread misinformation