TheHiddenCatboy @ jhymesba @lemmy.world

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What a very ironic post by this poster. It says everything we've been saying. So either the poster doesn't read the articles it posts, or it agrees with me about wasted votes, and is just posting and commenting to piss people off. Really, not great form here.

Yes. A vote for a third party candidate is a wasted vote in the US Presidential election. It's a wasted vote in everywhere but Alaska and Maine, honestly, and is a wasted vote there if you don't vote the major party as a second or third or whatever vote. Sure, you might vote a third party in order to express dissatisfaction for both major party candidates or a preference for a minor party candidate, but it won't move the needle. Voting isn't a single person thing, because you have an infinitesimal influence in the election: 1/150,000,000 for the Presidential election, made even worse if you factor in the Electoral College. The key to getting what you want is convincing others to join you, and voting tactically so that you get the guy or gal you can have a conversation with in office.

With how touchy the Mods are about us criticising Monk here, I suggest you clarify who the fat ass is. 🤣 It certainly applies to the Trumpster Fire, that's for sure.

Honestly, the media will amplify this jerk because it generates clicks and views, and thus advertising dollars and engagement. It'd be nice if we didn't amplify this jerk here at lemmy, but ... well, I expect the 'I do what I want hur' response any minute now, so here we are. Trump amplified. The BS persists.

Sometimes, the only appropriate response to a given news article is:

-or-

Nah. I really haven't spent that much time on that poster. I have a life, and I think the mods are trying to tell me 'engage with this person less'. It's sad that the Mods aren't taking this behaviour by this poster more seriously. All I can really do is call it out on its BS, and wait until after the election when its BS won't be as effective at depressing Dem turnout. That's all I'm really waiting for. The sad thing is we will be playing this game again in 2028 because this kind of BS is more effective than it should be, given the cruelty and stupidity of the average American voter.

I just called you unreasonable. We'll see if the mods think that's a violation of the TOS. Have a nice life, either way.

Oh, I remember that thread. Mr. Monk here got all bent out of shape thinking that the person who replied to its thread was calling it a shill or plant, when it was obvious the commenter was referring to the subject of the article, the "Libertarian" who dropped out when it became clear he was drawing more votes from Democrats than Republicans, a shill or plant. I laughed at that. Dude has a persecution complex for sure. And then he accused you of being an admin of that instance he got banned on? I really want to post a Bugs Bunny "What a maroon" meme, but the mods might delete the comment for attacking Monk. So I'll just say the convicted Sealion sure acts like a fool...

I actually had nothing against the article, but this was one of them that clued me in that this guy was nothing good.

I think there's a time and a place for criticizing our candidates. The time is during the candidate's term and in the Primaries. During the General, it's a bad time to do so. And you have to realise: You don't always get what you want. You say you want a candidate that Dem voters want to be President. The opportunity for that to happen is in the primaries. Unfortunately, the time for that has come and gone.

Biden won those primaries. The voters for the Democratic Party, who ALL get a say, put Biden up front. And people hammered Biden, including bad actors from the other party as well as from foreign countries, until Biden had no room for error. When he flubbed the first debate, we used the rules for succession, with him stepping down and his VP taking the top spot, like what would happen if he was rendered incapable of serving while he was in office.

I return to my key point. Trump or Harris are our choices today. No Third Party will win. As long as you are voting for Harris, criticise away. Just know that I will push back against any post that seems to suggest our candidate is horribad and shouldn't be voted for. Not voting for Harris means we get Trump.

Uh...not a great idea.

Suppose my parents made the decision to move to Alaska instead of Colorado for my birth, then moved to Colorado where I grew up. I'd be asked to vote in Alaska's elections, despite having no ties there, no stake in the outcome, and no reason to care about the issues. And if I'm to vote a Colorado ballot, why not let me vote that ballot from Colorado? If I want to go to a family reunion, I'll go to a family reunion. I don't need to be forced to go to one by being forced to vote in a state I no longer live in.

Same way for Colorado. It's all the benefit of electronic voting, but with the added safety of paper ballots. And it's a format we're all familiar with from school -- bubble in our answer (just with a pen instead of a number 2 pencil), and then turn it in. The counters feed the ballots into the counting machine, which tallies up the votes, then the ballots are stored in nice boxes, which can be retrieved and hand-counted on the off-chance the machines get hacked or otherwise...tampered with (Tina Peters, I'm looking at YOU...as you go to jail for 9 years! :3).

The best politicians money can buy...

Some will be violent. Some will be vocal. Some will grumble and move on. The violent ones will be the ones who make the evening news. They may also cause serious disruptions.

For the most part, I think you should prepare for disruption equivalent to a blizzard or hurricane. Stock up on canned foods. Get containers for water. Order Life Straws if you don't have them already. Stock up on batteries and charge any rechargeables you have. Make sure you know where your flashlights are. Load up on propane tanks for your grill and have a plan for how to use your grill safely. Add to that self-defence tools in case of civil disturbances in your area -- we're going to keep non-lethal but still painful self-defence tools for our self-protection. And then wait things out and try to stay safe. Check in on your neighbours, and stuff like that. I wrote an article on what I think you should do to survive Election 2024 with more details.

Can you link the comment he blocked you on? Maybe that'll give me an idea of how to get him to block me. :3

I'm going to be honest with you. My problem isn't this person's opinions. It's his behaviour. And you're slowly beginning to see it. This guy is a classic sea-lion, to use your own reasoning for his ban. He is hounding. Boastful and gloating. Disruptive and combative, while hiding behind a veneer of faux civility. Disrespectful of any dissent. And with a behaviour that sure seems like he might just be three raccoons in a trenchcoat, each with a phone, to put a humorous twist on an accusation you probably wouldn't let stand given past history. I'm saying there's plenty of TOS violations (multiple Rule 3 and Rule 4) right in front of your face, if you'd only see them.

But that's OK. This is not my community to admin. Your community, your rules, and your enforcement. I also get the stress of dealing with people who think you're not doing enough things or the right things on adminning a community; being a mod is a thankless job with scores of people who think you're doing it wrong. Note that I wasn't the one who drew your attention to this thread for an example of that. I'll live within the letter of your law, though I will definitely point out where I see discrepancy in enforcement. I can't call this poster a troll, Russian Asset, Paid Actor, or Bot, but I will point out that this user has been banned for 3 days for being a sealion by the admin team after over a month of constant anti-social behaviour. That should be within the letter of the law, right?

I still think you're treating Monk with kid gloves while coming down on us like a ton of bricks, requiring us to give this...person respect he's totally and completely unwilling to give us, but again, your community, your rules, and my only real option is deal with it or go somewhere else. I'm not letting this jerk run me off from an otherwise nice community, so here I am.

PS: This is what this poster sent to me.

Schoolyard bully approach with an extra dose of gloating asshole behaviour. Also, I never said this poster can't post what it wants. I've said that its posting history is highly suspect (back to my three raccoons in a trenchcoat analogy), sure, and that I disagree with much of what it posts, and that it is pulling for Trump/Putin with everything it posts, but it is allowed to post what it wants. It just has to deal with all the negative comments and downvotes when it posts its inane drivel.

I wanted to say this, but it's kinda forbidden around here to do that. :)

Bye, Mr. Convicted Sealion. For now, at least. ;)

Nah, I don't think I will listen to what this poser is saying...err, sorry, POSTER. Missed a T there. I swear it was accidental. :)

1. This is the Internet, where the Men are Men, the Women are Men, the Children are FBI Agents, and nobody knows I'm a cat.
2. If it is true what this poster is saying it does for a living, does that mean it's stealing company time, or just REALLY dedicated and posting one post every 12 minutes for 8 hours when it's not eating, sleeping, and working?
3. It really loves to tell people what they can and can't do. No, I don't think I will respect its commandment that I not post its stats if it doesn't get to curate what I'm saying with them. I stand by my statement. This poster posts a ridiculous amount of time. So much that it can be questioned. Dear reader, it's up to you to decide if once every 18 minutes on average over every day of this poster's time on Lemmy is a mark of a real poster, or someone who is far more nefarious.

See? This is the bullshit this poster throws out when confronted.

NOBODY is going to go make a scatter-graph of this poster's posting habits to show how often it's on posting. We're just going to do the easy maths. Like I just did. ON AVERAGE this poster makes a comment every 18 minutes. If it sleeps 8 hours, we would divide 80 by 16, and the posting rate becomes an even more insane once per 12 minutes, every waking moment of the day. And then we start asking other uncomfortable questions, like...'does this person work for a living? Or is this person's work posting on here for a living?' Not where I think this poster wants us to start drifting in our thinking, I don't think.

But that fits with the ban for trolling this poster got. It knows that once every 18 minutes, or once every 12 minutes sixteen hours a day, or once every six minutes eight hours a day looks bad, so it starts distractifying with the nonsense that I'm saying straight out that it stays up 24/7/365 which would make it a bot or at least a group of people operating on 24 hour shifts. I'm just saying that if you average it all out, this poster is dedicating ridiculously stupidly large amounts of time to force it down our throat that it's voting third party.

Again. I'm only interacting with this poster because we're not crushing Trump 70 to 30. Were we, I'd not even bother with this foolish human (?) -- let it waste its vote if it wants, that won't make Trump more likely. But somehow, Trump is pulling 49.8% in some very scary places, and we ALL need to be all hands on deck, and the only reason you wouldn't be is if you don't mind if Trump wins and fucks the entire goddamn country in the process.