It is much better for the working class to weild its authority than the Capitalist class.
Unfortunately, I don't believe that. Humans don't come in two flavours.
I think unfettered capitalism and the systems of power that you propose are both hostile, inhuman systems. I think that meaningful voluntary social systems have to be able exist within that context, and cannot replace it. I don't believe that eight billion humans can form a single community; our capacity to be social breaks down, and we collectively become something else that we don't really have a lot of power or comprehension over. I suspect that attempting to work on that superhuman scale can only bring greater conflict and chaos. I think that the enlightened human has to disengage from it, stop identifying with it, and instead find human-scale social constructs that we are capable of existing socially within, that are voluntary and free of coercion, and that seeks to address the social deficiencies of the ambient environment, whether that's an empty wasteland, or a metropolis.
Jesus, it was your word. If you didn't want to be pinned down to it, why apply it to yourself in the first place. Feel free to pick a better one, I'll wait.
It is not a binary distinction. It is also not something all ideologies seek to use as a tool. Rather, some seek to minimize it. I think you are telling me Marxism is an ideology that seeks to fully utilize authoritarianism, almost as though it WERE a binary distinction, and there is no point in going half way.
Overall I take your response in support of authoritarianism to mean you would have found that a less objectionable definition.
Would you have quibbled less if I had said "authoritarianism" instead of "violence"? I wasn't trying to be slanted, that was genuinely my impression of what the term meant.
You cannot have Marxist views if you are not in favor of using violence to impose Marxist ideals?
See, look, uh, I-I know I'm homophobic, but not about gay guys. They don't bother me at all. It's straight guys who don't know they're gay... they fuck my shit right up
Like a guy calls me up and says, uh, "A bunch of us guys are gonna sit around in our underwear and watch the football game and drink beer and eat chips and, you know, maybe wrestle with each other a little, you know, just us guys. You wanna come over?" And I'm like, "No."
You're talking about a service, not an open source text like source code. A service can't be "open source" unless it lives on a computing block chain like Etherium or something, because actual human beings have to do things on private assets.
No, it's on the same level as "make major life changes" to either a depressed person, or someone working in a non-union environment. There is no analogy needed. Sometimes you cannot make major life changes, even if it might help with significant problems. But we don't know that. It's valid advice. Unlike everything else said in this thread.
None of that elaborate rationalization you just performed changes anything. You admit you counseled something unethical, but you want to insist that reflects on OP, not on you. So now it's not just a failure of integrity, but it's also sophistry.
I know most of the comments here are from ignorant disinterested observers who aren't really thinking through what they are saying, but man. If the first thing you think of is fraud and sabotage when your employer acts within the boundaries of your contract, you're a bad person.
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Unfortunately, I don't believe that. Humans don't come in two flavours.
I think unfettered capitalism and the systems of power that you propose are both hostile, inhuman systems. I think that meaningful voluntary social systems have to be able exist within that context, and cannot replace it. I don't believe that eight billion humans can form a single community; our capacity to be social breaks down, and we collectively become something else that we don't really have a lot of power or comprehension over. I suspect that attempting to work on that superhuman scale can only bring greater conflict and chaos. I think that the enlightened human has to disengage from it, stop identifying with it, and instead find human-scale social constructs that we are capable of existing socially within, that are voluntary and free of coercion, and that seeks to address the social deficiencies of the ambient environment, whether that's an empty wasteland, or a metropolis.