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  • They do, however, provide the necessary institutions to reduce pressures and otherwise provide de-escalation options preventing those individuals from wanting to "go shoot up a school,office,building or anything".

    That would be the entire point to addressing the actual underlying issues.

  • Ah, you have nothing but hyperbole. Fair enough, this is about what I'd expected.

  • Is there a threshold of sensationalism of such events that changes the number of states required to ratify the thing? That would change the number of supporting Congressional members?

    I'm amazed you still believe this is feasible despite the lack of support for such a measure.

  • These guys have quite a few suggestions meant to address prevention up through mitigation.

  • Have you considered... not making the threat?

    No, surely it's the voter's faults for rejecting candidates for their stated positions...

  • How likely do you believe that is?

    Are you aware of what's required to bring about such a thing?

  • One could suspect blue team politics of having stock in Ruger etc. given the sheer extent to which firearm sales spike every time in reaction to blue team's nonsensical ban rhetoric.

  • Will they? How likely is a parent to actually have to have that discussion?

  • I wish you the best of luck in addressing that symptom in a society where such bans aren't commonly-supported, where the law isn't conducive to such, where there's such an incredible established base of ownership, and where "fuck the government and/or police" is the prevailing theme.

    By all means, when you've discovered some way of meaningfully and feaaibly surmounting these, share with the class. You'll be the first to have done so.

    Meanwhile, the rest of us will focus on the root issues - the pressures toward violence - rather than only caring someone decided to use a rifle to when finally pushed to the brink.

  • The NRA (and GOP), have been stifling this type of research for years. So yes, I doubt the justice department under Trump would have approved their research grant.

    The NRA hasn't been doing anything but fundraising for the GOP for quite some time.

    There's not much reason to doubt such a thing - it would be one thing if there was a clear pattern of this institution rejecting such based on the current president but that doesn't seem to be the case.

    I forgave your hyperbole the first time, as you said, it was an exaggeration. Then you came at me like I don’t care about my son because you think I have political bias.

    I'm not sure how you interpreted my response as a criticism that you don't care about your child, though I do understand how such would make a person defensive. To be clear, I don't believe you understand my frustration.

    I’m an anarcho-syndacalist. And I’m sure there’s a lot of other far left people down voting you. I’m not sucking the Democrats off. And acting like both sides are to blame isn’t helpful.

    I'm somewhere around left-libertarian, not that it matters. I find much common ground with an-com and an-syn and generally find these labels to be somewhat meaningless distinctions when considering the sheer overlap of beliefs and values.

    Intentionally withholding responsibility from one of the sides present in the equation, one which continues to ignore these inputs in favor of their own wedge-issue positions, is not just not helpful but is actively harmful.

    Or do you truly believe there's absolutely nothing blue team could or should be doing here to use such findings in addressing the root issues of the most sensationalized facet of firearm violence which quite likely overlap with the rest of firearm violence?

    The Democrats are sick of gun violence and I’m sure they’re aware of the research the justice department, under Biden, funded.

    Their complete lack of action in line with the findings of such research combined with continued action in favor of their dear bans would disagree.

  • I'll have to look into it - thanks for the suggestion.

  • From the article you posted. The rest is math. They decided to do the project in 2019. Grants take anywhere from 8-20 months to get funded. It also takes time to put together the application.

    Ah, I see - you argue that a department is Biden's for nothing more than his being President at the time.

    And since you’re being rude, for ages was clearly bullshit too. You linked an article talking about research that was conceived in 2019.

    Don't project.

    You could argue it was exaggerating, sure. It doesn't change the information has been available and continues to be summarily ignored by both parties.

  • Poor Splunk - such a useful tool does not deserve the upcoming enshittification.

  • It's good to see this blatant partisan propaganda organization go down the shitter.

  • Maybe the pressures are the same, but that has nothing to do with how you prevent him violence.

    Other than highlight exactly what pressures to address, you mean? Given they are the pressures behind firearm violence? Those pressures?

    Your article is super specific to mass shootings, and this office, as far as we can tell, is about all gun violence.

    ... which is why I highlight and ask about that overlap between the two.

  • You’re linking an article about a study funded by Biden’s justice department and the other poster is right about your both sides comments.

    Care to support that?

    The OPs article is about an office Biden is creating for this exact type of research too.

    Right - Biden, of AR-ban fame.

    It remains to be seen whether or not this office will support any research or just parrot Everytown.

    I understand the frustration. I have a 13 year old who his mom has tucked away in gun loving rural America.

    But your both sidesisms are not helpful.

    I don't believe you do, given your refusal to hold blue team accountable for their failings here in doing anything beyond focusing on symptoms. I'd argue such willful partisan blindness is less helpful.

  • Do you believe the overall pressures toward non-mass firearm violence are so different as to not overlap?

    I do not.

  • Bullshit. Democrats would be happy to try ANYTHING to solve this issue.

    And yet they've pushed literally nothing but various restrictions and bans focusing on firearms rather than attempting to address underlying root issues.

    Do not both-sides this extremely one-sided issue.

    Don't pretend a failing of both parties is somehow only a failing of one.

  • I'd say cope and seethe, but... you're definitely already there.

    You're not wrong though; give Linux a whirl.

  • Hikvision has a decent line of chinesium local-only PoE cameras. I've used a few of them with Frigate and Home Assistant with great success.