jatone @ jatone @lemmy.dbzer0.com

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I like how you flipped the script by blaming the group (the voters) and not the individual responsible (the DNC) for making the horrible decisions resulting in an ongoing genocide.

Don't worry im well aware of what I'll need to be doing this entire presidency as a result of the democrats complete and utter boondongle.

source

Please see yourself to any election results site for Wisconsin and Michigan, look at the results differential, look at the 3rd party votes, then go back the the primaries and look at the uncommited numbers from the primary.

Source? (Most dont vote)

See yourself to any american census page, find the adult population numbers, then look at the gross voters for this election. Do some basic math and you'll end up with 25-30% of the voting population voted.

Are you an idiot?

Possibly but you most definitely are. You dont know basic well known facts about demographics of Michigan and Wisconsin, you ask for sources for literally common knowledge facts that are both widely reported and easily confirmed.

And no i didnt claim they were the exact same people you twit. I was pointing out he had relatively similar levels of total support in fucking aggregate. ~72mill.

Biden convinced a lot of swing voters due to COVID.

No, 20 million voters didnt show up this cycle because harris brought nothing to the tablento motivate them. In fact she mainly brought dismotivation via a genocide and lack of economic policies.

Token handle? Like JRR Tolkien? Did you have a stroke?

No, its the other person who responded to your absolutely trash of a post with a link to some polls.

Okay we're done here. Nothing productive will be had with furthering a conversation with someone as uninformed, and in lacking basic reasoning skills as yourself.

And I've been telling people for years thats a terrible fucking saying as well. (Also notice how little play that saying had this cycle.) Statistically speaking you may have lost your arm but you'll still have the ability to write and walk! Sorry left handies! Nothing can be done for you! (Left handies are the arabs in the gaza story, lgbt in others etc)

In no way am I downplaying the religious fanatic dangers.

Idiots the lot of you, you think this is the only place people and myself have been making efforts? You morons have been getting warned the entire fucking year via student protests, media articles, poll numbers.

But apparently supporting a fucking genocide and shouting 'lesser evil' was more important to you than winning the 25 electoral points. No fucking wonder harris lost. Couldnt even say 'genocide is bad mkay, we'll follow our fucking laws'

Never mind her absolutely non-existent labor/working class economic policies.

Yeah unfortunately you dweebs were running your mouths and didnt know wtf you were heading towards.

Well now you know. But its Russia's fault. Sure friend.

Imagine thinking someone needs to cave on not being genocidal. Jesus fucking christ.

• students were arrested under their watch, a key demographic for them in a tight race. Students are often motivated canvassers. Their response to the outcry? There must be order. Get bent biden/harris.
• they lost 25 electoral points in two fucking swing states directly related to this. In literal numbers codified in the outcome.
• they completely fucking ignored the economic issues caused by corporate greed. Fun fact kellogs is charging over 100% more for fucking corn flakes than the store brand. CORN FLAKES.

Most Americans support the guy who wants to impose Muslim travel bans.

Sigh. You didnt do well in math did you? Tell me where did the 20 million votes for biden last time go? Trumps numbers are unchanged. Oh right, they didnt show up. 🤔

Never mind the fucking fact most adults dont vote. So no most Americans dont support trump. They just dont think either party is worth their emotional energy. Good job democrats! 🤔

And token handle the rest of your nonsense with the polling numbers.

Your words not mine. You failed to convince 20 million people with that argument, harris failed to convince 20 million people to show up using it after blowing a billion dollars.

Harris lost 25 electoral points in two states out of the fucking gate using it.

Harris lost more for completely fucking ignoring the problems working Americans are feeling at home. A minor tax break after food has shot up 20-30% in four years? Fuck off.

She fucking managed to lose every swing state using it.

At what point do you fucking realize how absolutely fucking stupid of a play that reasoning is?

I dont need to argue this point anymore. You want answers look internally. Not to me, Ive spent the last year trying to get you deeebs to course correct. You failed to do so and as result you've earned trump.

Insanity:

• you
• Harris
• biden
• dnc
• doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

No I didnt we lost. We lost our humanity, we've lost our shared communities. The fact i had to spend the last year arguing with people that genocide is not fucking okay is evidence of that.

In no fucking way do I consider this outcome a win. There was no winning this election unfortunately and thats precisely the fucking problem. But alas democrats decided committing genocide, arresting their enthusiastic base for protesting, fucking over the working class, and shitting on the people warning them about these issues come voting are winning strategies.

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You spouting words doesn't make them true.

Yes, there are solutions to these problems. they've been well discussed by many people over many years. I won't be engaging with you specifically here because well frankly your not worth my time and we're well off base from the original conversation on Biden being a fucking strike breaker. which he, and congress, empirically were.

Am I happy he got them 4(!) days of sick leave? sure. do I think he fucking absolutely short changed them? 100%. you don't get credit for not pushing someone off the ledge just because you patched up their leg. You've been told to look deeper at the union groups involved and which ones played with the biden admin vs which ones were actually on strike. go do your homework. I'm happy to be proven wrong here. this is half recalled information. But beyond that shrug.

yawn no it isn't. I recommend you spend some more time learning american history and less time spouting your nonsense from across the pod.

Hows that straw doing? still fresh I hope? pliable? I feel like the legs you made were a little thin. You sure it'll stand?

Are you trying to assert Israel isn't committing genocide? I'm not particularly interested in discussing the semantics of a genocide with a nobody like yourself. suffice to say, yes I'm confident in my calculus that harris' position on gaza cost her 25 electoral votes.

thats quitter talk soldier. =)

Dude, wow okay. let me inform you how voting works.

1. a person (or group) has ideas, and says 'hey friends, support me so I can implement these ideas'
2. people then look at your ideas and say 'oh that sounds grand!' or 'No thanks, pass'
3. the person who gets the most people to say 'oh that sounds grand!' wins.

now here is the thing. harris 'grand idea' was a fucking genocide, and no support for labor. this isn't about fucking moral superiority. its about a complete fucking lack of morals by harris across the board.

If you walk into a fucking room of people and tell them to 'join you for some genocide' dear fucking god do I hope they tell you to fuck right off. Now unfortunately 30% of the population is down for genocide. another 30% are willing to go along with it if you threaten them enough (or won't impact them personally). and a final 30% is like 'lulz newp'. Why the democrats thought it would be good policy to try to out compete genocidal fucks at their own game for votes is beyond me.

tracy needs some help. shrug. don't write them off yet. depression can be a hell of a time.

Yes, and the people at fault are the democratic party, their consultants, and people like tracy who can't get over their vaunted 'lesser evil!' world view to realize just how fucking toxic as individuals they are. we're engaging because tracy needs the release and others need to see how toxic it is.

What just happened is for two months the entire democratic party was toxic as fuck towards a large swath of voters. both arabs and pro workers. and now you want empathy after being toxic fucking morons towards people literally telling you what was going to happen if the dems didn't shape up.

You can continue being a toxic fuck or go do some shrooms and get some perspective on life.

Oh you mean they didn't show up to support your preferred minority issue? huh. I wonder how the arabs felt this entire campaign?

No one owes you their vote. You need to earn it. Your support of the shit behavior towards arabs (and others) demonstrated by the democratic party and its candidate is what caused this.

go home trick. connect with your community. get support. if you need some help lines to call I can find them.

Trick, you're still not doing so hot. go take another day off and drink yourself silly, touch some grass etc.