iriyan @ iriyan @lemmy.ml

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I am referring to people who can NOT do without behavior modification substances, legal, illegal, off the mini-market or the drug-store or the street, it makes no difference.

YES it is all over the literature, anti-depressants took up the slack of smoking and drinking quitting markets. From Big-Tobacco to Big-Pharma the goal is profit, and Prozac is one hell of alot more profitable than a good cigar. From Delaware to Georgia you have to use chemicals to stop tobacco from growing or use hybrids that are incapable of reproducing. Even if you can make Prozac in your kitchen you can't sell someone's patent.

NATO was fighting a proxy war against Russia and against anyone willing to stand on its side, maybe a test. By keeping Russia busy NATO/ISIS can wrap up Syria, provoke Iran to engage, Israel got a piece of Syria and most likely Lebanon, and it is about time Palestinians vacate Israel, handed to the Israelis by the UK with no conditions to keep the Arabs. Any place the UK has "vacated" has left a chaos of civil wars and antagonism behind. Roman rule surviving in 21st century with all the refinements of the UK.

Would this happen if Russia wasn't busy fighting in Ukraine? Would Turkey/Azerbaijan be able to kill and bomb Armenians if Russia wasn't that busy?

NATO engaged, EU supplies have run out, most committed to spending little for defense now they have nothing. But Russia didn't lose, so any proposal for peace agreement is an effort to save up part of Ukraine for later NATO use, and to accept defeat. Nobody will ask Ukrainians what they want, nobody asked people in Donetsk Luhansk fighting for autonomy and independence what they wanted either.

When Trump says he will reduce defense spending that means he will see it that the EU will take up the slack of the US defense industry welfare system. Either they pay or Russia will start chewing them up like pacman dots. See GDP % to defense budgets of NATO members to understand how large the gap is and for whom are the bells ringing.

I see big tobacco just fine, and consumers didn't hit big tobacco, the US government did by stepping on falsified findings of the ills of 2nd hand smoke. No move was made against tobacco till the US signed trade agreements with China to allow Big Tobacco to sell in the world's #1 smoking market. Look back at that date, then follow stock market prices of BT after the date. PM and RJR diversified, even put a foot into Big Pharma taking up their market.

Still, when you sum up all control substances including psychotropic recipied substances, the grand total hasn't changed a bit. The quality of the market changed, the quantity didn't. The poor kept smoking the rich just got Prozac

US beer can hardly qualify as control substance, it is what alcoholics drink to reduce the alcohol on their blood. The rest of alcohol has been banned for decades. Imagine that when Amstel first seriously started selling in the US standard Amstel couldn't classify as beer but only liquor, amstel light did meet the criteria. Now this is tv and radio, other media did have ads.

Tobacco bans mostly hurt motorsports but soon they found alternatives to cover the market.

We are daily bombarded with news on what the ruling elites have decided to enforce and that it affects our living, yet instead of concentrating on the mechanism we split hair between us on whether we are for or against their decisions. Nobody is left being concerned on what it would be like for us to announce our decisions that would affect their lives.

There is no talk here whether we should act to prevent this or not, just whether we approve or disapprove their actions. The motive? Our disapproval has little if any effect on them, they will keep deciding, they will enforce, and we will comply, because we know no other way.

I say we change the agenda, stop making their news headlines our center for discussion, let’s keep focusing on our headlines, till they start addressing our agenda.

To do so Europeans will either shop for US weapons or leave NATO and seek their own defense systems. As the late members quickly found out, and their populations don't like it, much of their existing military is obsolete, and the expense of complying with NATO membership will severely diminish their "traditional" welfare state, who has been more the target of US policy than Russian blockade from the markets. That is for Fins and Swedes good bye socialized health care and education, hello insurance and industrial indoctrination.

Germany doesn't even count on anything, it is still an occupied territory of the US, its health system reflects this satellite US in Europe territory, Last Germans to react and resist this occupation died in prison in white isolation rooms (Still in love with Ulrike despite of ideological separation - dreaded vanguardism).

If people can't understand history they will never understand moments and still pictures from it. The US still, since the 30s, is fighting communism in the very narrow minded way it perceives it. The US is just a mean barking dog of the global industrial/banking cartel. Not much more than that, sad but wonderful people serving that dog and keeping it alive.

If the real war is between them two, what business would Ukraine or Europe have in negotiations for ending the "battle"?

We are daily bombarded with news on what the ruling elites have decided to enforce and that it affects our living, yet instead of concentrating on the mechanism we split hair between us on whether we are for or against their decisions. Nobody is left being concerned on what it would be like for us to announce our decisions that would affect their lives.

There is no talk here whether we should act to prevent this or not, just whether we approve or disapprove their actions. The motive? Our disapproval has little if any effect on them, they will keep deciding, they will enforce, and we will comply, because we know no other way.

I say we change the agenda, stop making their news headlines our center for discussion, let's keep focusing on our headlines, till they start addressing our agenda.

Please correct this, not all of your food, all of the food sold by industrial outfits, even as bio-organic industrial products. If there is one place in the planet you can live without this it is the US, plenty of land, few people, plenty of resources to afford healthy nutrition. Compare it with hell holes like the Netherlands that have higher population density than Queens NY and there is not a square inch left to grow anything to eat, let alone in an artificial dried up swamp toxins have no means of draining off.

There hasn't been an ad for alcohol on US TV for decades and this had no effect, other than saving alcohol industries for wasting money competing with each other in that area.

You don't have a choice on the matter, so why waste bandwidth with empty proposals? Consumer tendencies and ideology is an illusion to keep movements away from threatening economic interests of the industrial/banking world. Change can never come from consumer modification.

Scientifically we are not equal in this respect, most studies show during all ages and populations on earth there is a specific percent of the population that needs substances to control behavior. Whether it is smoking opium, sniffing coke, drinking wine, or injecting anti-depressants there are those born with a tendency to find such escape.

In the age where industry X can patent substance Y and sell it at 10000xcost .. there will be a motive for making competitor substances look bad.

Is there a way to trace big-pharma money to WHO decision makers? Have there been any reports on discovering such "flow"?

Isn't it obvious that all "medical advise" on addictive legal substances is pressure on a huge market to shift to psychotropic medication for which profitability is 100s of times more controllable?

The more they squeeze the population (nearly 30%) away from cigs, alcohol, and street drugs, the more they gain in anti-depressants. And there seems no effort what so ever to squeeze the street drug addict population away from anything, seriously!

The WHO just wants a piece of the pie, and the more they act like this the more likely you will see the US becoming best friends with WHO elite again. So the blackmail worked!

Susan Singer can give you a clue https://mastodon.online/@slsinger/113959054222615036

There can never be capitalism without corruption, it is the nature of the system, so get over it and find a valid rational argument

Sane idiots that defend democracy in Venezuela were very happy with the violent overthrow of a truly democratic government in Ukraine, killed, persecuted political opposition, forced elected officials into exile, banned half the political parties, and incorporated a neo-nazi brigade financed by the CIA as part of Ukraine's military. Zelensky's term had been up for a long while and refuses elections. But Maduro is the bad guy we should be concerned about. Ukraine's largest oil/gas co. was run and mostly owned by Biden's son. BBC and CNN said the majority of people were pro-NATO/EU, even though the majority had voted for the toppled government that opposed NATO and EU memberships.

No, these people are not naive, or childish, they are paid propaganda trolls just as the US blog https://venezuelanalysis.com/ is. If election results haven't been published how did this blog get its data? Wild imagination?

massive oil resources American oil companies would be able to access

Most of them claim the oil was theirs and Chavez took it away from them and nationalized the oil industry. I am surprised they have survived as long as they did. Venezuela's prime oil market had always been the US, who else could buy so much oil?

US Oil companies own right to explore all the deposits in gulf of "Mexico" for decades. Mexico gets a tiny rent for this and government officials burn it all up between them.

So your problem with Maduro's government is that is corrupt, and which Venezuelan or any other government hasn't been corrupt? Chavez and Maduro 's crimes are summarized by taking back the stolen resources (oil) that was handed to US/EU oil cos. Whether the people saw a benefit from this or not you must be in Venezuela now and before Chavez to realize the difference. Hardly anyone disputed that for the bottom third of the population Chavez was a saint that treated them like humans instead of slaves. And that is what the US/EU governing officials and the oil company media are jumping up and down about. They want their oil back. Isolating them from markets to sell oil, to purchase equipment for drilling and refining oil, has had its economic effects. They have too much oil and nowhere to sell it to, and when they do they can't buy anything from international markets as they are blocked by US/EU. BRICS has been the only alternative but half of BRICS don't even need oil.

99% of the most vicious military dictatorships in Americas were sponsored, supported, and held up by the US as part of their anti-communist activity. Suddenly they are all concerned about Venezuela's quality of democracy. The largest Spanish speaking media outfits in the Americas are owned subsidiaries of US media corporations, do you really expect people to have an educated views of who to vote for?

People are not under sanctions, and no linux developer worked for the Russian government, and since when has a war affected who works on what open source project. There are wars all over the place all the damn time ..

I am not talking about the sanctions, I am talking about the additional remarks on how nationalist and racist both the leaders of the project appeared to be from their statements.

Clearly the vast majority of propaganda against Venezuela is for being one of the largest producers of oil in the world and among the very few that US/UK/NL based oil companies do not absolutely control, or control the sale of. About human suffering, poverty, hunger, "inequality", even the most conservative of Americans are not buying this pseudo-concern. The US along with its W.Euro puppets has spread nothing but misery to the rest of the world in the past 75 years, or should I say 100s.

On the other hand, trying to be objective on Venezuela apart from its electoral politics, after decades the impotent brainless militarists leading the government should have lost their illusion of being able to freely sell oil in the global market in exchange for food and other industrial supplies. At least for food, and it is not hard, to have developed mechanisms of autonomy, to have an abundance of food for export as well. For this, and this autistic relevance to oil exchange economy, they are inexcusable.
For sure during Chavez the gaps of the class differences between the very poor and the very rich or affluent have been narrowed, even anti-Chavez/Maduro advocates will admit to this. Shelter, working conditions, health care, salaries for the poorest of Venezuelans have been dramatically improved, the mid-upper-mid class is having issues, they are not as happy as they were being servants of US/UK/NL oil companies. Now they have to work for a living ... irrelevant what they want.

This blend of socialized everything free-market of food and supplies has made Vz into a static problem unwilling to adopt. The excuse that the US mandated blockade of markets and resources is the cause of all evil is admission that their hybrid ideology is bankrupt. With such abundance in power, with plenty of water and rich soil, a sea full of fish, and with abundance of technological/scientific aptitude Vz should have been an aspiration model for the poor world. Instead and by comparing power deficits all they are is an aversion to escape dependence to capitalist markets. If Venezuela can not do it, nobody can.