irelephant [he/him] @ irelephant @lemmy.dbzer0.com

Failing optimist, can code poorly.

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What do you mean? As in, not missing information? In that case, it is the same as lemmy. Though iirc that's only for stuff in communities.

I don't think you should be critising bluesky when you don't even know who the CEO is.

I'm not quite sure what you mean here to be honest.

I really hate this attitude.

Most people who are against bluesky don't even care about an open internet or whatever, they just want their protocol to win or whatever.

I know, but that wasn't my point. Getting cut off by a large server is a problem in any network.
Yes, its bad that bluesky controls most of atproto, but its possible to use atproto without bluesky.

You're misinterpreting my comment, I said that getting cut off a large server is a problem in any network. The problem is worse on bluesky, but that can change.
If I run a PDS, I connect to bluesky and other instances as well. I can get cut off bluesky's server, but there is other servers.

I'm not rationalising anything, I just think the discourse around bluesky is toxic, and I want to at least make it less annoying.
I don't even like bluesky, I do like the underlying protocol though.

I agree with you there.
I wish they put a bit more effort into getting people onto independant servers.
They took to opposite approch of mastodon: they abandoned proper distribution for better growth.

In any case, ActivityPub and atproto can both coexist.

You would be correct.

My point was that the network was fairly centralised in the beginning. The people behind atproto.africa are working on an alternate bluesky appview anyway.

I just say bluesky because that's what everyone knows it as. I'm really talking about its network.

Its not very well distributed, because almost everyone is on bluesky's meganodes.
Its more of a social problem than a technical problem at this point.

I have read it, and a lot of the problems have been addressed.
Bluesky is still very early. There was an awkward period where lemmy was mostly lemmy.ml.

I'm not trying to cherry pick anything, I'm just addressing arguments against it I have seen.

Well, that problem also exists with mastodon.social and a lot of the actual fediverse.
Its less decentralised, but its still distributed.

That is horribly centralised, but its not (imo) an essential part of the network.
They do intent to fix it at some point.

I don't mean this in an agressive way, but did you really think I haven't read that?

It should, yes.

I use reddit, but barely. Mostly for irish subreddits, the severance subreddit and r/guineapigs. And shilling lemmy of course ; )

I asked in the wafrn discord, they said it was for privacy. fwiw, they don't show remote fediverse profiles either

Its censorship no matter what, but it doesn't prove bluesky is centralised.

It is, but the fork could get rid of the login-wall.

All data on Atproto has to be public for it to work.

Somebody could just use deer.social then.
All the data is available at https://clearsky.app/linuxfoundation.org/ or XRPC https://porcini.us-east.host.bsky.network/xrpc/com.atproto.repo.getRecord?repo=did%3Aplc%3Ah5hpocfxr26lrha2d6qwd2b7&collection=app.bsky.actor.profile&rkey=self