Muslims and Mormons are basically the same thing
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I mean the market does seem to be headed that way in America…
I think unfortunately the PM equivalent currently in office is Phil Scott our governor. If you don’t know of him, he’s a Republican… but if the Republican Party was like him we wouldn’t be in this mess we’re in.
We’re a state that voted like 80% for Bernie AND Scott.
Oh but trump is worse!!! If you criticize the dems at all and call them controlled opposition and a fraudulent political party you’re a trump supporter!
(If it’s not obvious, I fucking hate the democrat party and their blue MAGA vote blue no matter who base)
And Iran went from mini skirts to burqas in three years.
I don’t owe you shit debate me bro and I’m so fucking sick of fucking out to brunch liberals who stupidly think these people give a flying fuck about their law and order and decorum.
The SDP put the nazis in power by supporting the “lesser evil” conservatives over the communists.(sound familiar?) In America, the democrat party put the fascists in power by rigging the 2016 and 2020 primaries away from Bernie. They handed trump the election in 2016 and 2024, and had covid never happened trump would have won in 2020 unless the democrats also ran a populist. When Obama bailed out Wall Street in 2008 instead of Main Street he created the material conditions that allows fascism to accelerate. And he did a great job closing Guantánamo - soon to be a concentration camp for migrants and god knows who else. And all the executive branch power grabs since I’ve been alive that congress and the judiciary never bothered to stop. There’s been so many fucking off ramps missed that it’s intentional at this point. The wealthy want to kill most of us “useless eaters” off and rule the rubble in their “network states”. You don’t fucking get it and never fucking will. You’re a smug fucking liberal who doesn’t listen to marginalized people with the generational trauma of genocide no less.
When the Democratic party loses, they don't think 'Boy golly, i guess I better try to appeal to the leftists who statistically hardly ever participate in elections' they think 'I need to be more like the winner.'
God you’re so fucking dumb. What a winning fucking strategy. Are you a fucking boomer? What the fuck is this “yeah ratcheting to the right is a great idea! Let’s be fascist lite!” Fucking mask off moment right there! Thanks for proving my point about the democrats being UTTERLY FUCKING USELESS TO VOTE FOR. vote for the party of stabbing instead of shooting! Fuck outta here you weirdo debate me bro
THE DEMOCRATS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RISE OF TRUMP AND THE FASCISTS. THEY ARE A CONTROLLED OPPOSITION PARTY CURRENTLY CONFIRMING HIS NOMINEES THEY WON’T EVEN DO THE BARE MINIMUM AND OBSTRUCT. THE DEMOCRATS ARE COMPLICIT AND COMPLACENT IN GENOCIDE AND THE RISE OF FASCISM. THE TECHNOLOGY USED IN PALESTINE WILL BE USED AGAINST US NEXT. THE DEMOCRATS WONT SAVE YOU BUT WILL INSTEAD GIVE A LEGAL PATH TO THE FASCISTS TO HUNT YOU DOWN AND MURDER YOU.
You’re literally a lib with a horrific misunderstanding of history.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/a-liberal-accord-with-nazism-1.711626
The German Social Democratic Party (SPD) understood what sort of threat the NSDAP posed, yet failed to put up the kind of fight necessary to stop them. In a desperate attempt to block the Nazis from taking power through legal means and save Weimar democracy, the SPD pursued a strategy of supporting the “lesser evil” — i.e., the current right-wing, authoritarian government — as a bulwark against Hitler (who would certainly be even more right wing and authoritarian).
This entailed support for the candidacy of archconservative Hindenburg in the 1932 presidential election and toleration of Brüning and von Papen’s authoritarian presidential cabinets, as well as the tax hikes and spending cuts they enacted. The strategy ran counter to the party’s political program, not to mention the material interests of its supporters.
The weakness of this strategy was particularly obvious on July 20, 1932, when Chancellor von Papen dissolved the SPD-led government in Prussia, the largest state in the republic. The SPD had already organized workers’ militias for precisely such a situation, the so-called Iron Front, a year earlier. But when faced with an actual confrontation the party leadership abandoned armed resistance, instead urging calm and restraint.
The German trade union confederation (ADGB) followed a similar path. Many trade unionists were also SPD members and supported the lesser evil strategy, tolerating Hindenburg’s government in hopes of stopping the Nazis through constitutional means. Consequentially, they also refrained from calling for a general strike in Prussia in 1932.
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Thus, most Communists no longer knew Social Democrats as work colleagues, but only as supporters of the lesser-evil strategy and events like “Bloody May” on May 1, 1929, when police under the command of Social Democrat Karl Friedrich Zörgiebel violently suppressed a KPD-led demonstration.
Accentuating the blockade was the SPD leadership’s outright refusal to collaborate with the Communists. The SPD at the time was consumed by an anti-Communist fervor, often equating Communism with Nazism. Party Chairman Otto Wels declared at the Leipzig party convention in 1931 that “Bolshevism and fascism are brothers. They are both founded on violence and dictatorship, regardless of how socialist or radical they may appear.”
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Trotsky and Thalheimer’s appeals for a united front were well-received by workers and intellectuals, as the popular desire for unity in the face of the growing Nazi threat was understandably widespread. This desire could be seen in the “Urgent Call for Unity” issued by thirty-three well-known public intellectuals including Albert Einstein in the run-up to the 1932 elections, calling for the KPD and SPD to “finally take a step toward building a united labor front, which is necessary not just for parliamentary, but for additional defense as well.”
Like I said, the liberals sided with “lesser evil” fascists than work with communists until the very end.
- They wouldn't be voting on Trump nominees if Trump didn't win
They would be enacting the same agenda. Genocide, anti immigrant, anti trans. They’re a fraudulent party.
- The Democrats are a coalition that includes conservative and centrists as well as leftists. Their presence isn't a reason to hand total control to party that instituted a muslim ban.
Which is why there’s no point in voting for them because they don’t stand for shit.
Oh clearly, they'd be firing hundreds of thousands of public servants, specifically black and women as DEI. 🙄
What musk is doing is completely illegal. What are the democrats doing to stop it? ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY NOTHING!!!!
Don’t give me a fucking “history lesson” about the Weimar Republic you dumb fucking liberal. The liberals fought the communists and enabled the fascists. You seemed to learn all the wrong lessons just like the complicit democrat collaborators.
Explain to me what the point of voting for democrats is when all they’re doing in “opposition” is confirming his nominees.
They won’t even do the bare minimum. Obstruction. They won’t even obstruct. Fuck them and fuck you too. They’re not an opposition party and voting for them would have the same outcome.
You’re probably right but I hope you’re wrong.
They're suffering, not me and not you.
I’m queer and visibly gender non conforming. I’m not suffering yet but I will be soon because democrats are controlled opposition. Nobody is coming to save us. Liberals are out to brunch. They’re confirming his nominees! Fuck them!
You of course, are perfectly comfortable at home on your computer. Paying your taxes and making some fresh pop with your Sodasteam™.
If Palestine versus Israel wasn't something you saw as an opportunity to demonstrate your virtue and your correct-think then you wouldn't give a shit.
I’m an antizionist jew who’s been anti Israel for 20 fucking years. I don’t own a soda stream for obvious fucking reasons. That genocide isn’t staying over there, dumb liberal. All that tech will be used against me soon. Fuck liberals.
As if trump would want Quebec anyway. They’re too French for him.
Anyway. Vermonter here. Even our states name is French. Surely he wouldn’t notice if we just left and joined Quebec right? If you’ll let us? We can run a maple syrup cartel together 🥹
That took an uncomfortably long time for me to get the joke and I’m mad about it
I think the right will revolt if pushed hard enough. A lot of trumps support isn’t genuine - it’s a lot of “reverse” lesser evil strategy. Most people I work with in a deep blue state (federally) voted for him. Of those, only two are actual trump supporters. The rest are mostly “apolitical” and don’t like him but saw him as less evil than Harris, who promised a continuation of much of the same failed policy as biden which was economically hurting my coworkers.
I think one of my coworkers - straight, female, 30s, white, seemingly socially liberal - is a perfect microcosm into the average trump voter: Me: I’m surprised you voted for trump. Why? “my paycheck didn’t go as far under biden. I don’t like the guy but I’m struggling now more than ever.” Me: what about women’s reproductive rights? “I’m not worried, our state’s constitution protects it”Me: what would make you regret your vote? “if they went after the states right to abortion”
This woman doesn’t hate minorities, doesn’t really care about immigration, is pro lgbtq, pro women’s rights. And she voted for trump because neoliberalism is bankrupting her. She’s not alone. The rabidly stupid base of trump supporters the media parades around because they act like a ridiculous cult are not the people who put trump in office. My coworker is the type who put trump in office. And if government services they or their loved ones rely on disappear or they’re kicked off of, there’s a real chance they might revolt.
Who will stand up to trump about anything?
No one, because the democrat party is controlled opposition.
I totally agree with this. They’re fucking around and they’re about to find out. There’s a gun behind every blade of grass in this country. The question is… what will be the last straw? I think we came dangerously close to a revolution during the beginning of covid, with the right wing losing their collective shit over being asked to stay home and wear a mask, and the BLM protests after another black person was shot by the cops. (Note the difference in severity of offense to get a crowd to form. Blacks getting killed vs whites getting inconvenienced)
What’s it going to take? Killing off social security? Medicare? Medicaid? I think SS will do it. My mother (and many others her age) rely on it almost entirely to survive. With nothing left to lose, kids grown and looking at the end of their lifespan, why not revolt? My moms a dem but most her age are trump supporters. Surely it’s the undesirables that trump will hurt and not them. but are they physically fit enough to revolt? Doubtful.
Last year I was in Home Depot looking at tool accessories. A woman dressed in marine officer uniform approached me. I thought she was hitting on me at first. In reality, she was trying to recruit me to the marines. “You look so young and fit! Hard to find these days!” Well unfortunately for her, not young enough.
This woman was casing out the local Home Depot looking for young fit people to recruit. They’re desperate. What does that say about our society and the chances that we even could revolt successfully? What does that say about our national security in general?
As for the whigs… the republicans went that way when trump and the tea party took over. The republicans of my youth (bush 2 and co) are now effectively the democrat party. See Liz Cheney as an example….
Thank you for this glimmer of sanity. I can’t deal with the libs and their vote harder bullshit any longer. We need real leadership and opposition, something the democrats are incapable of because it offends the “good billionaires” (lololol they learned nothing from the loss) aka their controllers.
Wow, I always assumed all fruits and vegetables don’t grow exactly the same as the fruit/vegetable the seed came from.
Who am I supposed to vote for? The fascists or the controlled opposition?
Lol at you equating being voted out of office as “real consequences”.
The only thing these people fear is death itself. They need to be more scared.
Christians believe that the angel gabriel announced to Mary she was preggers with Jesus
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annunciation
And Jews believe god told Moses his 10 commandments
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments