inv3r510n @ inv3r510n @lemmy.world

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You think I supported any of that? What part of America’s democratic republic is a facade do you not understand? What part of America has always been teetering between right wing and outright fascist (save for a few years during WW2) do you not understand? Our history from our founding (ignoring native history that predates it) on is a story of insane religious Puritanism and persecution of anyone subversive of that (Salem witch trials is a great example starting pre US, but it goes all the way to satanic panic of the 1980s and todays christofascism), our land theft from natives and genocide of them, from the beginning to modern day (notably our attitudes of manifest destiny being really obvious even today), our enslavement of Africans and their descendants from the very beginning to present day in prisons thanks to the 13th amendment, I can go and on and on. We’ve been at war in some way shape or form for all of about 7 years out of our nearly 250? And that’s ignoring the colonial / native stuff prior.

We live under the dictatorship of capital and the USD is backed by oil. Notice who we regime change? Left wing leaders. Notice why? Oil and other natural resources for our multinationals to exploit. Who do we prop up? Fascists and right wing dictatorships. Try to sell oil in any other currency besides USD? We’ll bomb you. We regime change anyone who gets in the way of our corporate interests. The line must go up.

It’s obvious you’re not American and you’re wasting my time. You haven’t got a single fucking clue of what it’s like being an American so sit down and shut up. We have not been represented by our leaders since before I was alive and I’m 35. Our democracy is a complete and utter fucking sham, our politicians in both parties barring a teeny tiny inconsequential handful are all bought out by corporate America and it’s billionaire owners.

Go look up Henry Kissinger, Oliver north, citizens United, the patriot act, the 2000 election, Jack Welch the list goes on and on there’s so much evil to expose - you need to learn what the hell you’re talking about if you wanna play the non American enlightened centrist bullshit game with an American leftist.

You responded to the previous comment (about police violence towards protesters) with nonsense about how protests ended the war in Vietnam and how we need to go “back” to “centrism” and shut up the “extreme left” and extreme right.

It’s not a serious comment. Responding with someone pointing out the brutality and lethality of police response to protests with but Vietnam! just shows your utter lack of knowledge. The police murdered Vietnam protesters. It wasn’t the whitewashed peaceful bullshit people it’s been remembered as.

The fact that you want centrism is utterly fucking laughable. Why do you think we’re in this mess? Are you just a blue MAGA who reflexively blames republicans for everything wrong with this country without any critical thought at all, just parroting MSM talking points?

What extreme left? Who in the extreme left has any power? Name some names, I’ll wait. There is no extreme left in this country save for a handful of unorganized working class anti fascist types.

Where’s that scooby doo meme where Fred pulls the mask off the criminal and the before and after are labeled centrist and fascist? Because that’s where this convo seems to be heading. You just really don’t get it. Centrism, liberalism, conservativism (which is just further right liberalism), fascism, they’re the only ideologies with any power since… JFK? Even earlier than that? There has never been leftist power in America, ever.

The system failed. It’s over.

They haven’t listened for forty years why would they start listening now?

It would of been a lie and never implemented. Even if they had the votes they’d find a democrat spoiler to ruin it in the last hour. Like they always do.

Well those are their buddies who sign their outrageous checks. Of course millionaires are protecting billionaires and other millionaires. Class interests come before all else.

I’m sorry but you’re not ethical. I’m sure you’re doing your best but you’re a small fish in a very unethical ocean. It’s not your fault, you’re just another cog in the machine.

A political figure of either party getting assassinated would spark some very ugly times. A bunch of universally hated CEOs? Not so much.

Tbh, I don’t even have faith in them.

This might just be the start!

He’s a whiny liberal and needs to stfu and let the left get shit done.

You liberals had fucking decades to fix this with your incremental bullshit means tested reforms. You failed. Miserably.

The national guard shot four people to death protesting the Vietnam war at Ohio state. Shut the fuck up and sit down liberal. It’s time the left gets a shot (hahahaha) at fixing shit.

Have fun being a fucking bootlicker.

Get the fuck out of the way you dumb fucking clown of a liberal.

OH FUCK RIGHT OFF. “We don’t use our institutions” no moron, our institutions are designed to be a facade of representative democracy when in reality any type of progressive pushback against our healthcare system gets tanked intentionally by well placed spoilers such as joe Lieberman.

They made peaceful change impossible so violence is what they’re getting and what they fucking DESERVE. They’re committing social murder and profiting!! off of it living lavish lives of luxury while my family suffers - I lost my dad and my house. These people deserve to die.

We tried the nice way. Now it’s time they find out what the second amendment really stands for. Bunch of fucking tyrants and pearl clutching bootlickers carrying the water for them. Do better.

No, it’s not wrong. They’re committing social murder and living lavish lives off it no less. Fuck bootlickers defending them with iTs WrOnG so is denying and delaying healthcare you fucks.

I have a few things left to lose and then after that I’m a free agent with zero fucks to give and a very big axe to grind.

And I have pearl clutchers whining about how my support for violence is wrong.

It’s self defense. The justice system doesn’t work against the rich so vigilantism it is.

How’s doing things the peaceful way working out? Make peaceful change impossible and violent revolution is inevitable. Our leaders fucked around for 40+ years now they’re gonna find out.

You sound like you’re discouraging more assassinations. If so we’re not on the same side.