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  • Honestly not much would of happened. He still would of had a neoliberal congress to contend with, and as much as he pretends to be a fiery independent progressive, he’d capitulate to them anyway.

  • You’re getting downvoted for this but literally same. I proudly voted the same as you (in a blue state not that it matters) since she lost the popular vote by a wider margin than all the third party voters combined!

    Liberals are in complete denial that liberalism is over, it is a failed ideology.

  • It’s not about Obama, it’s about the fact that he had to compete in a free and fair primary against numerous competent competitors and came out on top. Sure he was the first black president which helped his numbers but he won 2008 because he had to compete in a competitive primary and won the will of the voters running up to the general.

    We don’t need another Obama, we need a competitive candidate that beats out other competitive candidates.

  • He’s not. He’s arguably worse. I proudly voted third party (socialist).

    Cue the liberal tears. You lose the electoral college and the popular vote by a margin far greater than third party voters. Cry about it.

  • No matter who wins the election we all lose and the capitalists win, they own both parties. It’s a billionaire pissing contest.

    Also I agree about the downfall being far before 2008, but my point is about primaries and earning the popular will of the voters, something the democrat party could care less about. They would rather the country fall to fascism than allow any kind of progressive let alone leftist leadership come to power.

  • The caucus (I believe it was Nevada but I’m too lazy and busy to look it up) coin tosses where most of them went in favor of Hillary (statistically impossible) is just one of many examples.

  • Well well well. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. You sound so smug excusing away a literal fucking genocide that both candidates and their parties gleefully support. When you learn about the Holocaust, don’t you question “how could the Germans let that happen?” Now go look in the mirror, fool. You’re the problem, it’s you. You’re the 1930s German, accepting a Holocaust because it’s not that big of a deal and other things matter more to you. Hope you sleep well at night with that.

    Yes, genocide and war more generally are my single issue when it comes to voting for president.

    I know it’s so easy to blame leftists like myself for your pathetic loss, but go blame the democrats, who haven’t run a legitimate primary since 2008!

    They didn’t have a popularly elected nominee, and shockingly lol jk they lost!

  • Calling a genocide a “single issue” is offensive as fuck. It’s not fake leftist. Liberals can continue to cry and blame everyone else but themselves when they lose.

    It’s really easy. Kamala harris could change her view on israel tomorrow, but she won’t. After all, AIPAC owns both parties.

    If the dems gave a flying fuck about “preventing fascism” they would do whatever it takes. They won’t.