interolivary @ interolivary @beehaw.org

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I wholeheartedly support this goal

I did specifically say that yes, being a snarky asshole was stupid of me and I could have not been one in my initial answer. So, yes, I was an asshole and that's not something I or anybody else should be doing. That's not defensiveness, that's me saying I screwed up.

But can you honestly tell me that you think it's sensible behavior from this other person to compare a completely random onlooker who's trying to defuse this scene to a pedophile defending Nazi war criminals? Like, does that strike you as a good way for someone to handle it when there's a conflict and someone from the outside tries to be diplomatic and calm things down?

I also really don't understand what you're trying to accomplish with these replies. Just popping up replying to my comments with petty insults doesn't seem to paint you in a light that's any better than my initial twattery towards the original commenter. If you want to actually say something, take a moment and formulate your thoughts? Because this… whatever it is you're doing really isn't any better than my original snark, so if you agree with the original commenter than I should have done better (and frankly I agree with them on that point at least), maybe don't take your turn at being an antagonistic asshole just because you feel like venting – the way I did?

Heh, you can tell that you're trying to talk with a reasonable person when the response to your fairly diplomatic comment was to compare you to pedophiles defending Nazi war criminals.

But in any case, I do agree with you that I absolutely could have handled the original response much better by not being an outright smartass twat, but I'm honestly not too sure the outcome would have been any better considering this frankly incredible tantrum going on about rape culture being out of control and calling people who are trying to defuse the situation pedophiles.

I was having a bit of a crummy day and felt like being snarky, but this… whatever this is that's going on is just something else entirely.

Ouch. My condolences.

But hey, it's not just you though; here in Finland we've had eg. multiple literal neo-Nazis in the government – one had to quit because, you know, he is a neo-Nazi, but the extremist right wing party he's from replaced him with a pedophile neo-Nazi – and our Speaker of the Parliament has publicly fantasized on his blog about murdering gay people. And that's just the highlight reel, it gets so much worse.

Europe's a bit fucked, honestly.

git gets easier once you get the basic idea that branches are homeomorphic endofunctors mapping submanifolds of a Hilbert space.

(source)

Edit: but to actually have content in this comment, I'm not sure the mental model is the problem. It's not that alien that a good explanation wouldn't help, but it took a long time for git to start paying any sort of attention to "human readability." It was and still is in a way "aggressively technical" and often felt like it purposefully wanted to keep anybody but the most UNIX-bearded kernel hackers from using it. The man pages were rarely helpful unless you already understood git, the options were very unintuitively named, etc etc. And considering Linus' personality, I'm not exactly surprised.

With a little bit of more thought on how to make it more usable right from the start, I'm not sure it'd have such a reputation as it has now. The reason why I think this endofunctor joke is so funny is that that sort of explanation to "simplify" git wouldn't have been at all out of place – followed by the UNIX beards scoffing at the poor lusers who didn't understand their obviously clear description of what git branches are.

I said "argh" out loud, which means this is is perfect

Guess I hit a nerve?

Wanna go check out my profile page, leave a sulky reply on a few more comments? Insulting the quality of my memes was a terrific idea, but maybe you could team up with the original offendee who's now convinced that this post is an indication of rape culture being out of control, and see what sort of absolutely devastating insults you can come up with? Could call me a fascist for example, that'd be pretty bad?

Interesting! Do you know if these difficulties are specific to humans or would eg. taxidermizing a pig have some of the same ones?

Ha, thanks! It's great to have a sense of taste and smell again

I swear this post brought out some really fucking uptight and weird people

I… see? Any other fun conclusions you want to jump to based on hilarious "data"?

Huh weird, so you got the correct one? Because this is what I see when I poke at the link

Why on earth would you assume it's a beehaw thing and not a me thing?

While I always like me some SMBC, I'm not entirely clear on how this relates here 😅 but I'm also a bit dim, so there's that

A deceased friend's skull as a decoration and occasional ceremonial sippy cup would be metal as all fuck

Shit, now I want to be taxidermied after my death. I could actually haunt people

This is how I quit smoking actually. Now I haven't even smoked a cigar in years

I really wouldn't recommend those: you're still inhaling burnt plant matter, and while it might not be as bad as tobacco, that's not going to be great for you.

Also, those things probably aren't as controlled as tobacco so who the hell knows if they're even actually better for you.

That'll be 25€, thanks

Not sure that's much better. Did I handle that tactfully? No. Is that grounds for comparing me to a rapist? Also no.

I just really don't have much patience with people who assume that it's everybody's responsibility to shield them from things they somehow find either offensive, traumatizing, or making fun of their trauma. While I'm not unsympathetic to trauma or completely unwilling to accommodate it at all, if we clean the meme community of everything that someone finds somehow either offensive or triggering, there won't be much left here – considering how much you have to reach to say this meme is somehow grievously making fun of trauma or even related to trauma, the bar for removing "offensive" content isn't going to be high.

So, tl;dr, just about anything can be offensive or triggering to someone, so where on earth do we draw the line? Again, I'm not unsympathetic, but is it not a bit ridiculous to come barging in with the apparent assumption that something as inoffensive as this meme be either removed or that they get some sort of apology for it or whatever their end goal was in their mind?

Edit: just to drive the point home because I'm irritated, but despite what could be assumed based on my twattery in some comments, I'm a fairly sensitive person. There's a bunch of subjects that I'm very sensitive about, but I'm not going to go around telling people that their post about $SUBJECT_MATTER is offensive to me; my sensitivities aren't anybody else's problem, they're my problem (well, mine and my therapist's). And this doesn't mean I'd eg. shut up about seeing blatant racism or whatever, but things I figure aren't going to be more widely offensive or "touchy".