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What an idiotic take. A good government is elected by the people and directed by them to make decisions in their favour. Of course it is the government's role to protect its population from dangerous food additives.

What a hot and plainly idiotic take.

If you're not shilling for the Russians, you're certainly dense as fuck.

Europol in Europe. But you can report it to your national cybercrime division and they can refer it to the appropriate authority if necessary.

You're missing the point entirely. It's supposed to make you feel emotional, and to give you the opportunity to challenge those feelings and understand where those emotions are rooted.

Art is all about challenging your preconceptions, and yet you can't seem to get over your preconception that art itself is worthless lmao

Absolutely. The number of people in the comments who have missed the whole point of this piece is staggering.

It's performative endurance art. Marina was very much hoping and intending to make a statement on the human condition and the flexible limits of our morality. The audience played their part perfectly.

I know that some of you are outraged at the whole thing, but remember that art can't hurt you, the viewer. Art is supposed to make you feel things. And subsequently, you should have sufficient emotional intelligence to analyse and challenge those emotions and the ethical and moral preconceptions they stem from.

Art's raison-d'être is to challenge ethical and moral preconceptions. You seem to have missed the core value of this performance.

Immoral art can't hurt you, the viewer. It's supposed to make you feel emotional. You should have the emotional intelligence to question those feelings and come to an understanding of why the art in question made you feel that way.

Marina went through the effort and hassle of putting on this piece, and yet still its purpose has completely eluded you.

Bless you.

Well, yes, but the reality is that the crowd-sourced aspect of it is what protects you. But you're right, there's always an element of risk!

That's actually very interesting and reassuring. Thank you very much indeed for the insight–I can continue to use Proton in peace.

Yeah, that's how I understood it too.

Oh, 100%. In any other context, consent is–or should be–an ongoing event. I'm just not sure that applies in the context of endurance art.

Because when you invite someone over, there's the additional context that they are your guest and should behave as such.

During this performance art piece, that additional context does not exist. The only context is that provided by the artist, which did not set such limits.

This couldn't be more apt.

I don't believe it was, not for the original performance. Or have I misunderstood that?

Yeah, that's pretty much the point of this sort of endurance art.

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. She didn't set any limits and told them to do what they wanted to her. Amazing it wasn't worse in the end.

I dunno. I admire the idealism in your attitude here, but realistically we have to look at the words she herself used: "Instructions: There are 72 objects on the table that one can use on me as desired. Performance: I am the object. During this period I take full responsibility."

It strikes me that this quite explicitly states that there are no limits. I'm honestly somewhat surprised that she wasn't more seriously assaulted.

Lmao yep of course. It just sucks that we can't ever have anything nice.

I always used to assume crêpes when people said 'pancake' but I have since learned of the American pancake and how different it is.

Crêpes are the best. Love a savoury crêpe so much.

Except that acknowledging that the world exists doesn't constitute a blanket statement...